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Old September 3rd 05, 08:04 PM
 
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From: on Fri 2 Sep 2005 06:09


Dave Heil wrote:
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From: on Sep 1, 3:37 am

There's truth that the four morsemen have tried through intimidation,
personal attacks, and talk of moderating the group and excluding
non-amateurs.

By all appearances, the "Four Morsemen of the Apocalypse" want to
exclude all but PCTAs in this newsgroup.


There's one of your deliberate misstatements, Leonard.


That's merely your wrong opinion. I happen to agree with Len.


Dishonorable Judge Heil does not rule in favor of any non-PCTA.

ANYTHING contrary to PCTA thinking is "wrong" and must be
punished by them with humiliation, denigration, denunciations.

They do so with charges of "stupidity" and "errors" and some
uncivil remarks including labels of "piranha" and "Foghorn Lenhorn"
and "little electrolytic acolyte" and other endearing terms.


Len, you've invented more rude names for folks than any person here.
You started out as windy, insulting, condescending and pontificating.
It went downhill from there. Poor baby. Tsk, tsk. :-) :-)


David, you've started out as you've ended up. Smug.


Don't forget arrogant (if not egotistical).

Then
they get upset by others calling them names. The PCTA extra Double
Standard is always invoked in their postings.


...and there's one of your factual errors.

Case in point is James Miccolis constant statement of "that's
just plain wrong" in regards to others' opinions...as if he were
the sole judge of what is right and wrong.


You know, Leonard, it's funny that when Jim uses that phrase, you almost
always turn out to be just plain wrong.


Len has never worked out of band Frenchmen on 6 meters. As far as I
know, only you hold that distinction and title.


He should be PROUD of it.

Then there is his
(macro) paragraph of denunciation of my postings with uncivil
terms in it, repeated and repeated on his whim.


I don't see that profile of your likely actions to be a denunciation at
all. It reads like an accurate summary of your actions. All anyone has
to do is look at N2EY's profile and compare it with archives of your
past posts. Any reader can make a judgement as to whether the profile
is accurate or inaccurate.


Yours is smug.


Everyone is invited to view Heil's message archives and arrive
at your summation. I would have added "arrogant" but that may
be a personal choice.

By the way, tell us who was discussing moderating and closing the
newsgroup to non-hams and for what purpose.

Do your own homework.

My homework? You made mention of something but you don't care to be
specific. The matter remains unsubstantiated by you.

best of luck.

Heil forgets that I've openly SUGGESTED to the PCTA to get their own
MODERATED newsgroup.


I haven't forgotten. Brian Burke may have though. He seems to think it
was some sort of PCTA plot.


Then I stand corrected on that single point. However, Jim, Kelly,
RE-4YZ, and you repeatedly post that Len is not an amateur. The

purpose is to discredit Len's opinions, without considering his
opinions on their own merit. Luckily, we have a government body that
is not bound by such absurdity.


Dishonorable Judge Heil is benched.

Heil will not discuss the lawful fact that neither Commissioners or
staff at the FCC are required to hold amateur radio license grants
in order to REGULATE and ENFORCE U.S. amateur radio regulations.

Heil believes in the good-old-boys-pecking-order-in-club-house
rule of only those tenured in licensing are "suitable" for
"leadership." Heil doesn't want to understand that ALL U.S. civil
radio is regulated and enforced by the FCC, NOT the licensees.

That way they can be assured of proper Group
Think and not be bothered by opposing opinions from non-PCTA folk.


Do you really think that any self-respecting radio amateur would let a
non-ham tell us to go away from a newsgroup dealing with amateur radio?
You've probably gathered that it won't happen.


Eternal hope shines brightly.


Not for me in Heil's case. He simply can't be told anything he
doesn't want to hear.

This newsgroup is UNmoderated and that is how most feel it should
be.


No kidding? Really?


Really, and without kidding.


Heil cannot understand that. We should cease telling him in order
to save time for more productive efforts.

But...Heil is easily upset and so he must VENT in here.


What accounts for non-radio amateur Anderson's VENTING in here? You've
haunted an amateur radio newsgroup for close to a decade. You weren't a
radio amateur back then and you aren't a radio amateur now.


Hmmmm? Why would Heil make such a statement?


It must be close to a decade since Heil ceased being a paid
worker in the "foreign service" of the Department of State.
Absolutely NO evidence has been presented of his having learned
ANY diplomacy there.

I'll bet
you've retold your fascinating tale of BIG TIME HF work at ADA over
fifty times. It is a story having nothing to do with amateur radio and
everything to do with Len Anderson's desire to be recognized as
somebody. Well, you're certainly recognized, Len.


I especially like Jim's recounting amateur radio's contributions during
WWII when there was no legal amateur radio operations in the USA. He
cracks me up.


Then there's Heil's thrilling tales of African adventures
where he "synchronized" State Department communications via
morsemanship in the 1980s...claiming that "radio communications
paths were so poor that they would not support teleprinter/data
modes."

None of that has anything to do with amateur radio...unless one
counts the entirety of the Department of State as an "amateur"
effort of foreign policy.

Tsk. In other government radio, the U.S. military has maintained
teleprinter/data networks 24/7 in equatorial regions as well as
elsewhere some THIRTY YEARS PRIOR to Heil's tale of inability to
get a State Department radio circuit working. [Asmara, Eritrea,
was the principal relay point for DCS/Starcom/ACAN linkage of
Manila, Phillipines, to Pirmasens, FRG, kept open on 24/7 basis
from 1948 to about 1978...Asmara can be considered to be in the
"equatorial region" of the African continent]

Lacking
valid arguments on SUBJECTS he attempts personal attack by constant
reference to non-licensed amateurs' postings as if those were "not
allowed." Heil acts the bigot on newsgroup participation.


I've never ever said anything about your postings not being allowed. I
have stated that I don't give them any credence and I've suggested that
others might want to discount the rantings of an old gent with no
experience in amateur radio. You've gone way, way beyond that. You
have, in comments to the FCC, said that they should disregard the
comments of several radio amateurs. You're pathetic.


Hmmm? You can ask folks to ignore Len, but Len cannot?


January 25th, 1999, ten days beyond the cutoff date of Replies
to Comments on 98-143 ("Restructuring"), Dudly the USMC imposter
attempted to have the FCC disregard my Comment (a Reply to Comment
of Michael Deignan) entire becasue of not being a licensed radio
amateur or worthy of even making any comments. That one is still
in public view at the FCC ECFS, in the archives. My Reply to
Comment was stamped as "received" on 13 January 1999, also in
public view.

Heil is of the dictatorial view that ONLY licensed radio amateurs
are worthy of commenting/talking/discussing ANYTHING about amateur
radio...the "clubhouse" syndrome. Of course, such an attitude
would NEGATE U.S. government regulation and enforcement of amateur
radio since no Commissioner or FCC staffer is required to hold any
amateur radio license grants.

That's a dichotomy in thinking of Heil as a former employee of the
U.S. government. It's also friggin' WEIRD.

Heil (who claims to be a linguist of Hunnish) forgot, in another
post, that the fictious name of "Dudley" was used by author Earnest
K. Gann in his book, "Fate Is The Hunter." [my mention in here]
Frank Gilliland and I used another fictitious name of "Dudly" in
reference to another, a military pretender in here. There was no
misspelling of "Dudley" at all, just the use of "Dudly" to
differentiate from Gann's original name use. A shortened form of
"Dudly" is "Dud" which also fits that other, the pretender.


I see. It must be like your use of "Atila" to differentiate between the
real "Attila" and your use of "beligerent" to differentiate between real
warlike "belligerants". The name "Dudley" is an actual name. The name
"Dudly" doesn't exist. Very UNPROFESSIONAL, Leonard; very UNPROFESSIONAL.


It's less unprofessional than working out of band Frenchmen on 6
meters, IMHO.


Heil attempts to word-play in a puerile game of trying to be the
schoolmistress rapping the knuckles of "students" who make minor
"typographical" errors in spelling. I did not mention any Hun
who wishes to conquer any ham world, only that Heil attempts to be
a master of Hunnish language and the only "judge" on translations
of Hunnish to English.

Dudly the USMC imposter is another subject, already exposed. The
"Dudley" of Gann's book (published in 1961) is yet another subject.
Heil is unable to tell the two apart. In that case he must think
that the Gann pilot-imposter "Dudley" is the SAME as this
newsgroup's
USMC-imposter "Dudly" but cannot commit himself to comment.

You can tell the Mrs. that those dratted hams aren't giving you any
respect again.

Dave K8MN


One ham isn't. Never has. Too smug to be bothered by a non-ham.
Luckily we have a government organization....


Former government employee Heil seems overly bothered by a non-
amateur (who is and has been a long time a Commercial/Professional
licensee). That demonstrates his own insecurity.

Fortunately, for the CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES, we are still
protected by the First Amendment of the United States Constitution.

Heil thinks that the First Amendment does NOT APPLY when discussing
amateur radio subjects. His black uniform and jackboots must be
too ill-fitting for him to tolerate deviation from his dictatorial
wannabe-ruler complex. Very strange behavior exhibited by Heil.