an_old_friend wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:

an Old friend wrote:

Dave Heil wrote:

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not as I saw it and continue to see it

simply disgreeing with is not lying Dave

No it isn't. You aren't simply disagreeing. You posted deliberate
falsehoods and now you are lying on top of your initial lies. Then
again, you're an admitted liar.


No I am simply reading em the way I see em

No falsehood at all

why are you so threatened by that?

You keep using the term "threatened". I don't feel threatened, Mark.
You have manufactured stories. You have been called on them.
Irrefutable proof that your stories are fabrications has been
introduced. You continue to lie.


I use the term threatened for want of a better term

There are plenty of words which could be used to describe the way I
feel. "Threatened" is not among them.

I have not manfucatured stories I have reported on my reading of what I
found when I did the search you inistsed I do

Your new word "manfucatured" is pretty descriptive but I'll stick with
"manufactured", "false" or "fabricated". Those words are apt
descriptions of your dishonest and untruthful actions.

Indeed I still don't understand your beef nothing wrong with flirting
with her and yet you are in what looks like a rage over the suggestion

Rage? I'm not in a rage at all, Mark. I'm insistent that you have
written deliberate and malicious falsehoods. There are no shades of
gray here. There is nothing open to interpretation. There are just
lies told by you.

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No flasehood no malicious one

Just calling your posts as I see em

It is most interesting that you rant and rail at others as you call them
all "lier", but that you deny, over and over, your own untruths, even in
the face of easily obtainable proof.


If there was unturth id be prepared to admit it

According to your own rules, you'd be prepared to tell further lies.


Yes indeed if I felt threatened nothing realy threatening her no reason
to lie

It is quite apparent from viewing your past posts to this newsgroup, you
don't need a reason to lie. You simply lie.

from where I am siting you wer exchanging a number of flirtaous pots
with a Bisexual female o a Hg mostly of peronal ads

...and since you are aware of the untruth of your statement, anyone can
see that you would like about anything at any time.


I am aware of truth of that statement she is Bisexual by her own words...

Sorry, that is a lie.

and you were flirting with her over what looks like a period of some
weeks

Sorry, that is another lie.

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No malice there

There certainly was malice. You were corrected and even in the face of
overwhelming evidence to the contrary, you continued the lies.


more lies on your part

See what I mean? You call others liars when the truth is evident. You
aren't wrapped too tight.


no I don't see what you mean

the turth is I see your post as flirtaous

that is a fact

Actually it isn't a fact. It is simply another of your claims. Google
archives show otherwise.


Google archives can't show any such thing

Yes, Mark, the archives do show what was said and by whom. The facts
are quite different than your claims.

It is a fact that I see your posting as flirtaous\

You see yourself as a victim. You see Dee as an elitist bitch. That
doesn't mean that those things are true. It only means that your point
of view is skewed.

wether any one else does is another matter, but does not affect the
FACT I see them as such

Huh-uh, Mark. A fact would be that you *say* you see them as such--but
you're a known liar.

More proof of your lack of conection to reality

I don't think you are anyone I'd want to ask about reality.

that you can call them something else in your mind has nothing to do
with that fact

You aren't living in reality.


I certainly am, you OTOH don't seem to be
cut down on the BS

I'm cutting down some BS right now--your own.

"My credibilty in this NG not important. I never claim to make
point based on requiring that I be seen as honest here sso why should
it bother me?"

-- Mark Morgan June, 29, 2000



so?

"So?" That's the best you can do? "So?" It is bad enough for you to
be dishonest. You take it to a new level, trumpeting it from the rooftops.


It isn't bad at all as far as Im concerned I don't owe you turth esp
when you don't deliver it in reuturn

You'd first have to be able to recognize truth. You can't.


I certainly you can't reconize turth from lies your opinions from facts
or that simple facts that not everyone has to see the same thing the
same wya you do

Mark, I know you've been told this before, but it bears repeating. You
are a twit.

Grow up and stop your little temper tantruam, if you can


so is the answer

What is the question?


You and Stevie keep projecting your values

are you so stupid you can't understand I don't accept them?

Anyone can understand that you don't accept many values. Not everyone
subscribes to the idea that you can manufacture any story you'd like,
whether true or not.


More Davie fabrications, more lies

Please point out the fabrications or lies in my statement.

My values are simply different than your

....than my what?

This NG is pretty unimortant to me I have said so many time in many
ways

...yet you find it important enough to show up on a regular basis these
days.


It kills times

So does watching paint dry.


But this is much more fun

as another poster (in a thread not so far away) put it, like the morbid
fasination of watching a slow motion train wreck or something like that

....only you're on the train.

why are you so frighten of what I say?

Frightened? You must have come to a faulty conclusion, Colonel. I have
no fear at all of you. You're a perverse individual, lacking in
redeeming qualities. I see you as pitiful.


Then why are you concerned about my posts?

Why am I concerned? Because you've manufactured outright and deliberate
lies about me, that's why. You seem to feel that you have complete
liberty to do so.


One I have manufactured nothing. I have formed an opinion you disgree
with.

No, you have spread deliberate lies. You are a stranger to the truth.

Two, in point of fact, if I CHOOSE I have complete liberty to do so,
just as you have (and exercise) the complete liberty to manufacture
lies about me my beliefs, my very existance

You may choose to fabricate and lie regarding your very existence. You
have no right to do so about my existence. If you choose to lie and you
are found out, you must pay the consequences for your actions. That is
personal responsibility.


In one night, you've threatened death to an individual and you've called
a very nice woman an elitist bitch.


Done neither

You've done both, but you have to continue lying. It is your nature.


I have done neither

I have to insist. You've done both and on more than one occasion.

Stevie was merely reminded again that is to stay away from me or face
the results...

The results? You threatened to kill him with a gun. The words you used
exist. You can't deny them.


and I have called a not nice woman an elitist bitch, a
label I point out she does not object too

I have never observed Dee to be other than pleasant. In her recent
dealings with you, you have tested her. She has still not stooped to
your level. You have no way to know if she objects to being called such
a name by you.

No lie no continuing what wasn't started

That's right but you are continuing and you did those things initially.

grow up show a bit of class

Who would tell you if something were classy or not?

Dave K8MN