"Lancer" wrote in message
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On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 21:10:32 +0100, "The Magnum"
wrote:


"Lancer" wrote in message
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On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 19:24:48 +0100, "The Magnum"
wrote:


Actually it was the british colonies that introduced slavery in
America.
The first imported African slaves brought to the British North
American colonies were landed at Jamestown, Virginia in 1619.

Long before the U.S.A. existed.

In the 17th century, slavery was used as punishment by conquering
English Parliament armies against native Catholics in Ireland.
Between
the years 1649 and 1653, during the Cromwellian conquest of Ireland
by
the New Model Army under the command of Oliver Cromwell, thousands
of
Irish Catholics were forced into slavery. Cromwell had a deeply
religious antipathy to the Catholic religion and Irish Catholics who
had participated in Confederate Ireland had all their land
confiscated
and were transported to the West Indies as slaves.


Actually it was the british colonies that introduced slavery in
America.
The first imported African slaves brought to the British North
American colonies were landed at Jamestown, Virginia in 1619.

Long before the U.S.A. existed.

In the 17th century, slavery was used as punishment by conquering
English Parliament armies against native Catholics in Ireland. Between
the years 1649 and 1653, during the Cromwellian conquest of Ireland by
the New Model Army under the command of Oliver Cromwell, thousands of
Irish Catholics were forced into slavery. Cromwell had a deeply
religious antipathy to the Catholic religion and Irish Catholics who
had participated in Confederate Ireland had all their land confiscated
and were transported to the West Indies as slaves.

Eh?? why are you telling me this?? I didnt say and never have that
slavery
never existed in the UK and i never said The British Empire didnt
condone
and use slavery. But the English never introduced slavery to the US


Yes it was directed to you.

Because the British did introduce slavery to the U.S.



Chronology Of The History Of Slavery: 1619-1789

1619
The other crucial event that would play a role in the development of
America
was the arrival of Africans to Jamestown. A Dutch slave trader
exchanged
his
cargo of Africans for food in 1619. The Africans became indentured
servants,
similar in legal position to many poor Englishmen who traded several
years
labor in exchange for passage to America. The popular conception of a
racial-based slave system did not develop until the 1680's. (A Brief
History
of Jamestown, The Association for the Preservation of Virginia
Antiquities,
Richmond, VA 23220, email: , Web published February,
2000)

Note the word DUTCH....
Regards,
Graham


Yes note the word Dutch, as, British colonization imported 21 slaves
from a Dutch frigate to the colony in Jamestown, Virginia in 1619,
three of whom are known to have been named Isabella, Antoney and
Pedro. Isabella and Antoney had later given birth to a slave boy named
William. This "William Tucker" is now considered the first African
American born in the English colonies in North America. The Dutch
delivered them, the British enslaved them.

Note the word British....

Dont you think if the DUTCH person SOLD them to the ENGLISH colonies then
they were ALREADY slaves???


Does it matter? They were brought to America, to end up as slaves to
the British, it doesn't matter who brought them here, it could have
been martians with flying saucers. The English introduced slavery to
the US. The Dutch most certainly didn't force the Brits at gun point
to take the slaves?

The English never introduced slavery to the US, it was the Dutch.. Anyway as
you say, does it really matter? I wasn't the one to bring the subject of
slavery up and to be honest i'm not that bothered if slavery was a "British
Colonial" thing... Judge people by who they are today not by things that
happened far in the past. Your great granddad could have "friendly fired"
and killed his allies (my relatives) but I certainly wouldn't hold it
against you.

I think its time to move on to more interesting topics, don't you?