From: Dave Heil snarling on Sep 14, 1:17 pm
wrote:
From: on Sep 14, 4:08 am
Dee Flint wrote:
"K?B" wrote in message
wrote
http://home.ptd.net/~wk3c/
. . . unbelievable . . !!
I'm usually one who waits to "hear the other side of the story", but this
incident astounds me. For the first time since I became interested in
amateur radio, it's not clear to me why I should continue my ARRL
membership.
But what is the existing or potential conflict of interest?
Carl works as a consulting engineer for commercial firms which have
interests in the millimeter end of the spectrum which could be in
conflict with our interests in the ham bands which are also in that
part of the spectrum.
What you mean "millimeter end of the spectrum which could be in
'conflict with our interests' in the ham bands"?
Since WHEN has there been any "great interest" in the World
Above 30 MHz to the League? The core membership of the League
is interested only in "working DX on HF with CW." :-)
Plenty of League members operate the bands above 30 MHz.
Quantify "PLENTY," snarly Heil. Give us some NUMBERS.
You must have missed out on this past weekend's contest.
I could care less about "contests" or "radiosport." Especially
if "sponsored" by the League.
You're out of touch, old timer. :-) :-)
Har. Har. Har.
I was operating and maintaining multi-channel 1.8 GHz microwave
radio relay equipment in the fall of 1954. Where were you?
I was testing X-Band (8 to 12 GHz) airborne radar at Hughes
in 1957. Where were you?
I was doing lab tests on 4mm waveguide components in 1960 at the
STL research lab. Where were you?
I was testing microwave components and systems, including
designing part of an active air-coupled test set on Ku-Band
(18 to 24 GHz) for the A-6 Intruder at Micro-Radionics in the
early 1960s. Where were you?
I did the entirety of design of an L-band (1 to 2 GHz) Mode 4
capable transponder test set RF section at Teledyne
Electronics in '78. Where were you?
I and Al Walston (W6MJN) did all of the RF design work on the
latter two generations of the RCA SECANT aircraft collision-
avoidance R&D program plus the RF design of the RIHANS ship
positioning system in 1972 to 1975. Where were you?
[I've left out some because you'll get even more snarly if
you hear all of it]
Where WERE you, OLD TIMER? Still turning on the power switches
of satellite comm State Department radio gear and claiming you
"operated" it? Or was it all "synchronizing your RTTY with CW?"
The core membership doesn't seem to care dink about any World
Above 30 MHz.
Please present any evidence that you've uncovered which outlines what
ARRL members think about the frequencies above 30 MHz. Any at all will do.
How about over 2000 Comments on WT Docket 05-235?
How about over 2000 Comments on WT Docket 98-143?
How about QST having a magazine section entitled "The World Above
30 MHz?" [supposedly all about the latest, greatest ham stuff
at VHF and higher, but not even close to what the RSGB shows
in Radio Communication magazine]
They wanna play in the HF sandbox, same as they
did a half century ago. Nothing has changed. Status quo uber
alles.
I'm sure that you have something solid on which to base your claim.
Please point us to it.
Jim Kehler's acerbic comment "Gigahertz are for gigasquirts."
Right in here circa 1996-1997.
Find me some articles of "great interest in millimeter bands"
allocated to amateur radio by the FCC. Who in here has EVER
worked up in the millimeter bands?
I have, on numerous occasions from WA8ONQ.
Then "NUMER" them for us. WHICH BANDS? And WHEN?
You are beginning to sound as vague as Dudly the Imposter.
Who in here has EVER worked
any ham bands above 70 cm? [besides using a 1 GHz cell phone
or 2.4 GHz cordless telephone?]
I have, on numerous occasions.
Then "NUMER" them for us. WHICH BANDS? And WHEN?
You are beginning to sound as vague as Dudly the Imposter.
It would be informative to see some resumes of the work experience
of the Directors and the BoD of the League.
It might be informative, if only to demonstrate that none were in jobs
which presented a conflict of interests.
Then go argue with Brian Kelly. I'm just interested in INFORMATION.
YOU yield NO information, only vagueness and generality.
Pres. Jim Haynie was
a salesman. [should be a clue right there, ey?] How about the
"other" pres., Dave Sumner?
There is no "other" pres.
Sumner is listed as CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER and TREASURER. You
don't consider CEOs as being "president" level, do you? :-)
Dave used to run the "Residence Radio Club" with a club callsign.
He still do that? :-)
Dave Sumner is a regular editorial writer in QST. Has Jim Haynie
written anything worthy of an editorial?
That piece of
information is necessary to get an insight into the problem. I didn't find
it on the web site. Of course I don't have a lot of time this morning.
Dee D. Flint, N8UZE
I found it extremely EASY to obtain all the details on Carl's
website. Just a couple of mouse clicks while reading this in
Google. The same with checking out the League's web site to see
the "announcement" of the candidates for Division. At NIGHT,
when I first saw Carl's message on Google.
Well, let's get a membership drive going, right? "Join and
CHANGE THE LEAGUE FROM 'WITHIN'!" Free, open, democratic
principle stuff. Uh huh. :-)
Off the top of my head, those who post here who cannot run for ARRL
Director:
"Off the top of your head" is just air.
You've said NOTHING about "join the League and work for change
from WITHIN!" :-)
What you do if the hierarchy doesn't let you?
Have YOU run for any League post? And why should we care?
Just like most of what you say in here is "off the top of your
head," it is merely AIR. Go fight with someone you think you
win message points from. That's YOUR style, mighty AMATEUR
radio warrior.