From: an_old_friend on Sep 14, 5:39 pm

Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
From: an_old_friend on Sep 14, 11:40 am
wrote:
From: an_old_friend on Sep 14, 3:01 am


Well, the ARRL is a PRIVATE membership organization...even if they
try very hard to convince folks that they are "official" and some
kind of beneavolent "democratic principled, free election" kind of
group.

Oh yes, very PRIVATE, Leonard. Any radio amateur anywhere in the world
can becoming a voting member for 39 bucks per year (some discounts apply
for students and senior citizens and some surcharges are added for
foreign members). Any non-licensee with an interest in amateur radio
can become a non-voting Associate Member. Free elections are held and
democratic principles are employed. As there are restrictions on who
can run for the U.S. Congress, there are restrictions on who can run for
the ARRL Board of Directors.

certainly they are free to contribute, or is tha pay tribute to the
ARRL, just not free to run for office as other memebers of the BoD are

Free Elections held are to be held when?

Doesn't really matter, Mark. Snarly Dave wants to make it appear
that the ARRL "is run just like the federal government." Ain't so,
no matter what he implies.

Snarly Dave is a BELIEVER and he HATES anyone that dares sass
his beloved League.



Or perhaps as you say later they just lack an understanding of the way
info propagates these days

I doubt that. Carl Stevenson would be seen by the League hierarchy
as "controversial."

That's quite possible. Someone who sits on the Board may have even read
this newsgroup and might have seen some of Carl's choice comments about
the League and about Directors. His words would not have disqualified
him for candidacy though.

hard to say that with any real assurance

Snarly Dave "KNOWS" that the ARRL is free, open, without blemish
and ultimately "fair" to the point of being a veritable nirvana.


Remember that the ARRL has been a staunch
supporter of morsemanship ever since Maxim was their president.
Their core membership is made up largely of morsemen.

...or so you've been told.

so we have SEEN

Absolutely! It is readily apparent to anyone in years of QST
editions, all the filings the League made at the FCC, and in
the general order of favored precedence in the ARRL publishings.

Snarly Dave wants everyone to believe the League is "benevolent"
to an absurdity insofar as modes are concerned. They are
"objective" only in their definitions of themselves; others see
them differently.


Carl is ALSO executive director of NCI. The ARRL did NOT get what
they wanted in one of the past 18 Petitions, that of having the
code test retained for Amateur Extra. As far as the League is
concerned for their appearance to their core membership, that has
to rankle.

People get used to being rankled. The rules for running for Section
Director are what they are. Nothing was changed in order to exclude
Carl Stevenson.

just decided that that he wasn't entitled to same consideration as
other memebr of the current BoD nothing more than that

Snarly Dave "explained it all," Mark. All are supposed to TAKE
what they receive at the hands of the League. Period.

Snarly Dave ain't explained that the League simple left Carl OFF
the ballot. No word why from the League. The League "doesn't
have to explain anything," they just DO. That says it all.

Snarly Dave doesn't like Carl Stevenson. So, don't expect any
objectivity from Dave.

Snarly Dave doesn't like you, either. Don't expect any objectivity
on anything you write in here.

Snarly Dave just plain hates my guts from years back when I didn't
remove my hat, act obedient in his presence, and say "sir" a lot.
Might have been different if I'd slathered gratuitous praise and
admiration for his "government service" in the wilds of Africa,
especially his "synchronizing RTTYs with morsemanship" in the
1980s. :-) Sorry, I don't heap praise on bull**** artists.

Dave's "from the government and he's not here to help" (anyone but
himself). It's as simple as that.