KY4Z wrote:
nobodys old friend wrote:
KY4Z wrote:
nobodys_old_friend wrote:
Dr.Ace wrote:
"nobodys_old_friend" wrote in message
ups.com...

meaning you agree that Dan mispoke I should think when he claimed, "He
argues with everyone about everything." the rest is simply a matter of
opinion, and point of view

Hardly a misrepresentation of your conduct here, Mark.

certainly is everyone and everything are all inclusive terms

I am certain that that meant something to you...

indeed I am sure it meant something to a lot of people, perhaps the
catagory is what excludes you

You OTOH say you will agree to discuss something only after everyone
agrees to agree with you, in advance

I've never seen or heard Dan say any such thing.

then you have not been paying attenion. he claims that he will only
discuss emergency comms when I agree with his disriction of the nature
and importance of the beliefs he holds

cuting the english cop crap
cuting the waste of text again

You continue to "dismiss" as "speling cop crap" efforts to get you
to use the same words in the same context as others so that we may all
understand each other.

another lie on your part. You aretying to define the debate by your own
spin, I refuse to allow that

Your "cut" and "speling cop crap" are nothing but censorship.

Not at all

You can and certainly will choose to keep typing your crap, I am making
no effort to stop it. I just choose not to have it count on my tab of
Bandwidth

what is censorhsip when you alter my posts and respond to the sentence
as if it was the way I wrote it after all to paraphrase you they can
alway go back and see what I choose to cut out

And you DO remember who was famous for censorship, don't you,
Mark?

Yes you are famous for cenorship Stevie at least around here

discusion, the reference was that I must accept that coms I thinks are
merely important are vital to safety and recovery of the region.
Indeed, like Stevie is ****ed that I see ARES type comms, by and large,
as merely preforming the important job of keeping a lot of the small
stuff off the plate of the first responders, as opposed to stuff
affecting the real size and scope of the disaster.

One cannot carry out a meaningful discourse unless there are
certain basic understandings from which to frame that conversation.

you are just plain wrong on that

No, I am not.

yes you are

As any lingusitics professor, Mark...

it isn't a matter of linguistics


guess you don't follow the public debate on much of ANY political issue
in the nation

Sure I do.

the you were lying when you said "One cannot carry out a meaningful
discourse unless there are certain basic understandings from which to
frame that conversation."

And I know that each of the parties concerned use the same words
and in the same context.

like I said you are a fool or a liar

BTW, Mark...that was a really WEAK effort at diversion...

not a diveration but at strike at te heart of your argument. It was
exactly on point

So far, you've not demonstrated that you have a real-time frame of
reference on "emergency comms" from which to make an informed opinion.

not needed at all, indeed if I had than I would likely be unable to
discuss the issue with any impartiality, which would seem to be Dan's
(and your's) problem. You all can't what you are talking about becuase
your own egos are involved

It's got nothing to do with ego.

sure does

It has to do with disparate parties discussing a common subject
from a common understanding.

nope it is about the effort of some to limit debate to those that agree
with them in advance very much a page from Yesir Imarat's (mispeeling
for effect) playbook

"Communication" does NOT occur unless both parties have SOME
common frame of reference from which to understand each otehr.


it also does not occour whn one or more parties decide they are not
interested in any view but their own, as is the case here all so often

I have taken accepting as fact the claimed message traffic and comented
on its importance in the over all scheme of thing

That said what?

what it said

The latter type certainly did not occour during Katrina, at least in
part becuase for Hams to delver such messages there would have had to
have been somebody to to compose the message and give to us and
Somebody to delviver it to, both ends broke down in Katrina, terribly
limiting our poetencail usefullness as Hams

Your complete ignorance of what has transpired in THIS region,
from your perch on Michigan's Upper Penninsula, is obvious.

I know what is going on there

Obviously not.

only in your world that is so disconected from reality

you are not in that region either strictly speaking

Sure I am.

nope you are not, unless you are lying on your address to the FCC

you over look the fact that the onlooker sees most of the game, and the
players don't

Ahhhhhh....so from your perch in UP Michigan you know more about
what's going on than those of us who have actually been involved in
it..?!?!

certainly I do know much you can't know because you were in the mudst
of it. a plain and simple fact


cut the crying
FYI, not ALL "emergency comms" are formal written traffic. And
not all "emergency comms" involve "Hi Mom, I'm safe And Will Call
Later" traffic.

never said anything of the sort

You aren't capable.

I certainly am

more Stevie lies

Like I've said before, an_old_fiend is apparently in the same camp as Todd
(same mindset).
Also since an_old_fiend doesn't have a call sign his opinion in
radio.amateur groups doen't mean much.

I just choose not to sign it,

unlike some of you I have a life outside Ham radio, I dislike the
common custom of reduceing a person to a callsign

Mark's callsign is K B 9 R Q Z. He is an NCT.

my word 2 true statements in a row I may die of the shock

Don't tease me.

but as I said I have a callsign just chose not to sign to ervything

"everything"...

No...You claimed that you didn't sign your Amateur Radio callsign
to Amateur Radio related posts because "...unlike some of you I have a
life outside Ham radio, I dislike the common custom of reduceing (sic)
a person to a callsign."

that is why I make the choice I do the one statement is just an
elaboration of the other, both are true

cuting the raving
He's spent
countless months telling us of his "disability" and intent to use the
American's with Disabilites Act to "sue" anyone/everyone associated
with his failure to get a coded license.

but you saved by lying again

Nope.

yes you are lying when you make the statement "He's spent countless
months telling us of his "disability" and intent to use the American's
with Disabilites Act to "sue" anyone/everyone associated with his
failure to get a coded license."

plain and simple

I have discused the the legalities of the ADA and Code testing but made
no threat to sue anyone at all, and since you add anyone assocated with
I mentioned I never threatened to sue you on that basis either

BTW, Mark, WHAT "life" outside of Amateur Radio?

my life is non of YOUR busness unless I chose to share those deatils

You have no life outside Amateur Radio, Mark.

I certainly

As a matter of
fact, you have little life that moves you beyond the four walls of your
house.

closer than you normaly get, since I do work from my home. I don't have
a lot that moves to travel beyond my home, but that is how I like it.

If you said I had nothing that got me much off MY land you'd be even
closer.

I enjoy the freedom to work when I choose and only as much as I choose.
I can hunt and fish, build stuff, Most of the world beyond comes to ME
when I need it. I am living the life I dreamed of as a kid


You've now created at least three screen names that I count as
"active" in order to get around Google's "daily posting limit" so you
can keep the list loaded with your rhetoric.

so? you count

I don't have to. It's obvious.

You've alleged that I am "obsessive-compulsive" about responding
to RRAP posts, yet YOU are the one who has created the means by which
you can defeat the posting limits so YOU can "pounce" on everyone
else's posts.

not on everyone


and it is ok acording to you for you count my ppost and analyze them
but not for me when I choose to do the same

Doesn't sound like much of a life to me..

Thank you Stevie must mean I am doing something right that you
disaprove
cuting the sexual refence again

There's so much about you to disapprove of.

thank you very much Stevie

Steve, KY4Z