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Old October 27th 05, 05:58 AM
K4YZ
 
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Default Frankie of Silliland: A Coward Who Lied To And Stole From His Country Lectures About "Integrity"


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On 26 Oct 2005 19:55:51 -0700, "K4YZ" wrote:
nobodys_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
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Well...that makes it hard to figure out the attributes...But it
DOES make it easy for Markie to claim "I didn't say that..."


nope it cuts down on the #### being posted


Two things...Stop posting and there won't be any #### here.

Secondly, YOU stated that when I did that, it was infringing
your "freedom of speech".

And just this very day you claimed that I keep "changing the
rules" in this forum, yet here YOU are doing that very thing!

So...from now on I will go back to my old practice of trimming out
anything with more than three arrows next to it...Anyone nterested in
anything older than that can use the browser back button to follow the
attributes...

YOUR rules, Markie!

guess you are right you been in the lying range so long


I've been lying on the couch today, but that's all the "lying"
I've done today.


no you just racked up another lie


Not at all.

One no reason but your word to say is lying SoB but his first duty is
the constitution entitirely possible to feel a conflict in which case
he is bound to disobey (rather like some solders at Abu Graib should
have done but that is another topic)


One, No, it's not "another topic".


abu graib is another topic than frank and so


Yet again more words without any strucure.

The soldiers at Abu Gharib shold have REPORTED THE INFRACTIONS via
the chain of command.


no they should have refused to prefrom them and then informed the
chain of comand


"perform" "command"

Markie...REFUSING A COMMAND in a WAR ZONE is a death penalty
infraction.

the "orders" were unlawfull and they should have had the gut to refuse
them


"unlawful"

Read above.

even were he tried and found
guilty (it being found that the orders were not illegal) thais does not
prove he was lying or in any way violated his oath or stole his
rightfull pay


Markie...He WAS tried and found guilty!

Twice! Indicted, tried and CONVICTED!


your source?


My source.?!?!

HIM, YOU IDIOT!

oh that is right you don't need sources

people are never aquitted of any charges and even if they are they
were still guilty riight Stevie


I see you're into ignoring facts.

you have presented nothing that allows you to state


Almost right, Markie!

I didn't "present" it...FRANKIE did! He's the one who made

the "####bird PFC" comment which, on "cross examination" led to the
discovery that he's twice convicted for violations of the Uniform Code
of Military Justice.


not according to the body of his posts


The "body of his posts" are lies and deceit.

OH!

WAIT!

WHAT AM I SAYING...?!?!

YOU THINK LYING IS AN ADMIRABLE TRAIT!


Mind you that the Marines would much rather send a "junior
trooper" to Office Hours, whichn in the Marine Corps are Article 15
proceedings. In other words, letting the commander of the unit handle
the incident at the lowest echelon.


Something I would only advise a soldier to try if they are guilty of
something but likely he reufsed Art 15 as I did many times


How can a civilian refuse Article 15 punishment?

Courts maritals are reserved for the real idiots or the specially
grevious charges.


not always but then you were so busy ducking you would not know


Ducking what, Markie?

Since it's apparent that Frankie didn't spend any time in
Leavenworth, we can safely put him in the "real idiot" category.


no we can't


Sure we can.

His conduct in this forum corroborates that.


by no bwoing to you that is proof of his good sense


By WHAT...?!?!

He freely brags about having disobeyed orders and subsequently was
court martialed...Not once, but TWICE, for his conduct.

so what?

BTW your facts don't seem to be true


Then if they were not true, they'd not be facts.


well they are n't facts then


Huh...??!!

Wassamatta, Markie?

The late hour making you even less competent (is that possible?)
with English than usual?

he has admited to making a mistake (haven't seen him says it was
violating orders) and taking a lumps and once to being tried and found
not guilty


He WAS found guilty.


not according to him
not after apeal was it but that does not count with you


HE SAID he was never granted an appeal, Markie.

I made the point of suggesting that his after-the-fact

findings of "evidence" that supported his arguments warranted a new
opening of the case. Frankie said "that wasn't possible".

His innocense is some after-the-fact presentation of evidence that
allegedly mitigates the prosecutions case...But Frankie can't/won't get
it fixed.

If I'd been falsely prosecuted/convicted in a court martial and
later had material come into my hands that substantiated that evidence,
I'd be a screaming banshee at my lawyer's office to get it fixed.

Can't speak for the USMC but the Army teaches it people that it is
better to wound the enemy in most cases ties at least 4 people that way


You can't speak for the Army, either, Markie.


not on an officail cap of course but I will never forget basic
training


"offical"

What "basic training"? Pagans have a boot camp?

I suspect the USMC theaching much the same thing


"teaching"

Naw...We were basically told that the phrase dusbiously attributed
to General George S Patton, that it was a soldiers duty not to die for
his country, but to make the other SOB die for his.


gee I thought the marines were smarter than Patton


"Marines".

Marines are taught to know who's who.

USMC attitudes on this are that if you let those four guys carry
that fifth guy off the battlefield, there will be five guys to worry
about later. Better to kill them all now than to ahve to face them a
second time.

So, better you quit trying to figure out who you're "speaking for",
Markie.


shove it stevie


MARKIE!

More of your attempts to squelch others freedom of speech...?!?!

Or just getting tired of being made a fool of?

Where he swore to uphold his oath,

no such documentaion


Sure there is!

He provided a partial copy of his DD214 here. In order to have
gotten a DD214, he had to have been sworn in in the first place.


not the issue but you don't understand that


Sure I do.

YOU claim that there is no evidence of Frank's having sworn an oath
to uphold the Constitution of the United States and to obey the orders
of those appointed over him.

I pointed out that FRANKIE provided the "evidence".

Sorry YOU don't want to hear it.

he has expressed his opinion you did not serve holding that opinion
even if it may be contary to fact is not a lie


Sure it's a lie.


nope it is an opinion Frank holds and stets that he doesn't believe
you sered


"states" (I think...) "served"

It's a blatant lie. Frankie the Coward has point-blank stated my
service was a lie and I didn't serve...this despite having been given
references to the contrary.

that is no lie


It IS a lie.

cuting the rant


Then you're cutting your own throat? Because that's where the
rants are coming from.

if it were you would been guilty of lying when you say I have not
served in the Army, in those cases you are simply mistaken


I am not "mistaken".


yes you are


Nope.

Oh I am sorry oposing you is proof that you are lying I forgot

Nope...You asked, I told you.

another lie

no proof was offered


Sure it was.


where?


In the last four months of posts, Markie.

Overandoverandoverandoverandoverand............... ..............

Frankie's own words.

Or are you now calling him a liar too?


no I am saying you are distorting his words


I didn't distort anything.

IOW you are lying about what he said


No, I am not.

Are YOU claiming that Google archives are lying too?

And Frankie's only reason to be in this forum were to try and
"undermine" my USMC service claims on your behalf.

I doubt that I think Frank was acting on his own


I KNOW he's not acting on his own, Markie! But thanks for agreeing
with me!


another lie Stevie I said exactly the oppositie but then you realy
can't read we knew that


"really" "opposite"

No, you did NOT say "exactly the oppositie".

I believe you served just that you served very badly indeed


Uh huh...That's why I don't have a single disciplinary action in
my SRB and four stars on my GCM.


no that isn't why has nothing to do with it


It has everything to do withn it, Markie.

Otherwise you're claiming that EVERY unit commander,
officer-in-charge, Sergeant Major and NOCIC I served with lied about my
service.

So...How do you explain that?

of course he is he dares to oppose you,when are you going to publish
that dictionary of words as you use them


It's already published.


where?


The Library of Congress, B.Dalton Bookseller, Waldenbooks,
Hastings, just about every college bookstore in the world that teaches
English....

It's called "Websters".


nope it isn't


Then we have you lying again.

You should get one.

You two have a lot in common.

I doubt we have much in common


Sure you do!

One we both oppose you here

two we both have lived our lives

I supect that is about it


And you're both liars and cheats.


nope I am not a cheat we both lie as does everyone else of course


Yes, Mark, you ARE a cheat.

The Colonel Episode was a prime example.

maybe I would but I don't think so


No...you don't THINK, Markie...


yes I do


Nope.

another lie from stevie


Nope. As proven by your own words, Markie.

I do my best to make sure I have my bets covered, Markie. That's
just a prudent thing to do.

no you don't do that either


Sure I do.


you cheat on your bets


Never once.

Frankie claimed I "profess" to be the "newsgroup spelling cop".
That was a lie. I've never done it.

I agree he was in error

You are the cp just not hoest enough to admit it


The "cp"...?!?!

"hoest"...?!?!


more evasion


Get out that Websters and look up "evasion", Your Putziness.

cut


Censorship.


another lie


Nope.

Nope. I have a Marine Corps Good Conduct Medal with four bronze
stars on it (Not THE "Bonze Star"...the small attachments that signify
a multiple issue of the same award)

so what?

means you kept you know out anything for years I am not impressed


It means I did my job. And I did it well.


no it does not it means you stayed out of trouble


In the Marine Corps it means I did my job.

Failing to do your job is a breach of discipline.

A breach of discipline means no GCM.

accusastion is the same as guilt which has become your SOP here in
RRAP and likely in real life

The "guilt" is Frankie's and is from HIS admissions, Markie.

no it isn't it comes from your distortion of his words


What's to distort?


plenty when you compare your account of his words to his words


His words say he was court martialed twice. Convicted twice.
Hence his discharge as a Private First Class when he SHOULD have been a
Sergeant.

He called HIMSELF a "####bird PFC" and admitted to his two courts
martials.

There was nothing there for me to distort if I wanted to!


he said a lot more than that you just left it out


I don't ened to repeat every word when Google has it archived.

calling you lazy again ahven't you seen that statement for enough to
reconize it


"haven't" "recognize"

Haven't YOU had your nose rubbed in your own laziness and childish
spelling errors to fix them?


obviously not


Obviously.

and you are dumb enough to ask


Nope. Was just wondering if YOU were going to be dumb enough to
acknowledge it, and by golly you were!

Again...I was asked for specifics...I gave them.


you gave no proof at all


.....Sigh.....

is this what you did in the service always tell other to do your work?

What "work"...???

any work


WHAT are you talking about, Markie?


you are not bright enough to know?


I can speak English as native tounge and two others with moderate
comprehension.

"Gibberish" is not one of them.

He claims I didn't do something. I provided verifiable references.

you asked him to do your homework


No, I didn't.


sure did
you told him to go find the proof

you lie so freely


Markie, he asked for specifics. I GAVE him PROOF.

Frankie alleges having contacts that allow him to "know" all these
details about USMC personnel.

Obviously he lied about THAT too.

Frankie claims I didn't serve in the Marines. I've given him
units, dates of boot camp including units and locations, and even my
promotion boards dates and precedent numbers.


and told him to go check it out

to do your work in other words


Nope.

I gave him references. Just like I would if I was applying for a
job.

He asked. It was incumbent upon HIM to verify what I told him.

He claims to have "contacts".

Obviously he doesn't.

That substantiates my claim of LIAR.


nope


Absolutely.

He can't seem to verify those references. Obvioulsy his claims
were false.

indeed as close to admision as we ever see from Stevie the weasel


"admission"

There's TWO weasels here, Markie...You and Frankie of Silliland.


neither


Both.

you refuse to turthfully answer any question put to you


NO...YOU refuse to accept what you're told despite being given
verifyable references.

you demand that everyone do your work for you


Nope.

borong Stevie and showing you off in the bad light we RRAP'ers have
come to expect for you

"Boring"

No...Only you, Brian, and Lennie.

which is about half of the regulars Stevie more than a thrid prehaps
less than half


"third" "perhaps"

Nope. You, Lennie and Brain. Then myself,


Cmdr Corey,

doesn't count he is not a person


Obviously he does since he can manage to post here.

Dee

counts


Sure she does.

, Mike
Coslo,

outa here accrding to him


Obviosuly not, since he's posted in the last couple hours

"Ace WH2T",

you even put him in qutes as less than real


"quotes"

Where did the use of quotation marks come to mean "less than
real"...?!?!

Alun N3KIP,

not a reg


Absolutely a regular.

Dan W4NTI

dan is outa here


Posted in last 24 hours

, Kim W5TIT,

not a reg


She's more "regular" than you are, Markie.

Dave K8MN,

he counts


On more levels than YOU ever will.....

Jim
AA2AQ

not a reg


Sure he is.

, John K KC2HMZ,

not a reg


Sure he is.

Bert WA2SI.

not a reg


Sure he is.

If we go into the Wiseman crowd, we
pull in about another five or six "regulars".

they don't count no names


Sure they "count". Theyare even more prolific than you in nuber of
daily posts!

3 outa 6 is half the regualrs plus Frank who you treat as a regular


Sorry Mark...Your math skills are worse than your English.

BUZZZ you are wrong again


Mark, you're a piece of work.

Each and everyone of those folks post in here on a "regular"
basis.

Unless, of course, you have yet another "definition" for the term
"regulars".

Frankie's not even a regular
here...Just a lurker with a competency and confidence deficit.

but you treat him like one


You're darn right I treat him like he's a lurker with a competency
and confidence deficit!


so he counts


Be my guest.

But that still leaves your numbers way off.

I didn't say anything about MY "humbleness", Markie...

another lie "in my NOT so humble" that is part of the statement above
on your humbleness or rather the lack of it


And AGAIN you've screwed up the English, Markie...


not at all


Absolutely "at all".

you did post about your humbleness

you lied again


No...I said in my not so humble OPINION, Markie...

But there you go showing off that English comprehension problem of
yours again....

no you show you don't evn bother to understand your own posts


Sheeesh.

I'll give you ONE thing, Markie...

Just when I think it's NOT possible for you to make a bigger idiot
out of yourself, you go and prove me wrong.


And you did it AGAIN!

Steve, K4YZ