Frank Gilliland wrote:
On 25 Oct 2005 02:12:30 -0700, wrote in
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Now you were saying something about standards.....???

Yep.

I was saying you don't measure up. And obviously the Marines felt
the same way...Twice...

Coward.

Let's talk about standards, Dudly. For instance, how do you feel about
a Marine who serves barely a month out of each year for 18 years, yet
ascends through the ranks as quickly as one who serves active duty
during the same time? Do you think that those are equal standards? I
don't think you do, Dudly, and neither does anyone else who served
during the time that you "served".

One weekend a month?

WTF are you talking about, Disgraced One?

From 03 September 1974 to 29 May 1992 I was on active duty.
Nothing else.

And let's take this "standard" thing a bit further. What do you think
of a Marine who suddenly aquires a chronic medical problem that would
conveniently prevent him from serving in the first Gulf War should his
unit be called to active duty? And what if that medical problem wasn't
serious enough to prevent him from joining the CAP after being
discharged? I am not alone in thinking that Marine is a coward who
shirked his responsibilities and skated out of his oath.

Good question. Why not ask a Reservist that same question. I was
with NAMTD-1032 during DS, so it wasn't going anywhere. My only
"reserve" time were those Delayed Entry days rom April of 74 until
September 74 when I went active.

As for "skating out of his oath", that has you written ALL OVER
IT, Miss Silliland...the boy who had to get his discharge "upgraded".

BTW, Miss Silliland...even if I HAD been a reservist, so what?
Guess who makes up the lion's share of the Total Force concept, and
who's "carrying the day" in Iraq as we speak?

Reservists and National Guardsmen.

So much for your "one weekend" standard theory, eh?

Just one more "standard", Dudly..... have you ever heard of "guilt by
association"? I'm sure you have. But there is also a thing called
"credit by association", where someone claims credit for the honorable
actions of others for no reason other than the fact that he is allowed
to wear the same uniform. You wouldn't know anyone who would do such a
thing, would you, Dudly? Like maybe someone who claims to have been
personally involved in "seven hostile actions" when it was really some
-other- Marines who were digging the red mud out of their boots in
Beirut?

If you want to go for the "credit by association" gig, Cowardly
One, go talk to Lennie Anderson...He's given us lengthy stories of how
his rear-area radio mechanic duties qualified him to speak on a great
many military subjects as if he "was there"...Oh, and it also put him
on the same par with guys who were KIA three YEARS before he was even
inducted. And don't forget to ask him about the "sphinchter" post and
how he served "under the threat of the Soviet Bear bomber..."

As for "credit by association" and other such things, that's why I
don't discuss my Marine Corps career here other than to state that I
did...Deceivers such as yourself and Lennie Anderson like to take sport
with other people's service.

This post of yours is a prime example.

You have never disclosed your reservist status because you wanted the
respect earned by those who made the Marines a proud organization, but
you never earned that respect by performing the same duties.

Lies, lies and more lies.

And even more substantiation of my belief that your dismissal from
the Marine Corps was not only warranted, but "for the good of the
Corps".

And you chickened out of your oath and your responsibility to your country
when it came time to put your ass on the line. Yet you have the gall
to sit your fat ass and criticize -me-, an honorably discharged...(SNIP)

Unh unh uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

You were NOT "honorably discharged"...

You were discharged as LESS than honorable, Mr Wordmeister.

You were "upgraded". You got the benefit of the doubt on your
cutting scores for the POST-discharge "upgrade".

(UNSNIP)...Beirut vet, just because I got into a couple scrapes. Steve, you are an
honor-thief, a malingering coward, and a sniveling sack of ####.

Sorry, you Cowardly Putz...wrong on so many levels.

But then you're USED to being wrong, aren't you?

Wrong enough to get COURT MARTIALED. Twice...

Article 15 punishments are "scrapes". The Sergeant Major puts you
on "firewatch" for a month for "scrapes". Your NCOIC has you field day
the shop or stand extra duty for "scrapes".

YOU were FOUND GUILTY for OFFENSES.

And who's polishing WHOSE brass with "credit by association" here,
Mr Alleged Beirut Marine? Whether you believe it or not, I was as
close to exploding things as you were, but it does not make me any
better than anyone else who served in those theaters...just lucky.

Steve, K4YZ

You had your chance to fess up and now you've been outed.

Outed? For what? Your lies and accusations made so you can fluff
your ego over berating a former SNCO and getting away with it...?!?!

Nobody likes you and nobody ever will.

As opposed to all of those teeming masses laying roses at your
feet, court martialed coward? I'll take my chances here.

Do the right thing for once in your life and go away.

Bullies and liars don't impress me, coward.

I've given you (and indeed this forum) numerous references to
PUBLIC sources that prove all your silly accusations for the malicious
lies that they are...Boot Camp platoon...Promotion Boards....MOS's....

Frank Gilliland is a liar and a coward. You weren't "stand up"
enough to do what you promised to do in the Marine Corps, and you're a
mudslinging punk here.

You'll always be second place to someone, if for no other reason
that you just don't have the guts to do otherwise.

Steve, K4YZ