From: on Oct 29, 4:44 am

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From: on Thurs, Oct 27 2005 3:41 pm
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From: on Tues, Oct 25 2005 2:30 am
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From: on Oct 24, 3:39 am
Alun L. Palmer wrote:

It's about *your* 'scorecard', Len.

Yes, it is.

Well, at least you finally admit to that plain and simple fact.

Let's see...Google accepts MY postings only under my IEEE
alias and I "sign" every "score card" with
."

WHO would be posting a "score card" under my name if
NOT me? :-)


Did you think someone ELSE bothered to read ALL
the filings on WT Docket 05-235 and compile a day-by-day
tabulation of them?

I don't think that. I know it's true. I've seen the compilation
done by someone else and it's more informative than yours.

WHO else, Jimmie?

You are begining to sound like Dudly the Imposter in here,
always NON-specific but alleging you "know" someone else.


You've never been a radio amateur but you tell us How Amateur
Radio Should Be. Which is your right of free speech.

MISTAKE. ERROR. I'm telling the Federal Communications
Commission (a U.S. federal government agency) what I think
the regulations on GETTING INTO amateur radio "should be."
[i.e., my desires]

Tsk. I could NOT "tell you anything" about amateur radio or
anything else if it was against what you wrote in here. You
would spend days, weeks, even years arguing over a "discussion"
as you did on "age requirements" LONG AFTER I dropped it. :-)


The thing you seem to have trouble with is when others use their
right of free speech.

Tsk, tsk, I'm USED to heckling, catcalls, booing from the
peanut gallery in computer-modem communications. Been doing
that since early December, 1984.

YOU are one of the hecklers.

Who is "Jimmie-James", Len? An imaginary friend of yours?

James P. Micollis, the one whose legal address given to the FCC
is at 136 Morningside Circle, Wayne, PA 19087.

Are YOU this same "James P. Miccolis?"

Answer truthfully. Any false responses will be treated to 23 years
of heckling... ;-)


ALL of them. Even those filings
which aren't about amateur radio! :-)

Finally! An answer to a straightforward question! Thank you.

Tsk, tsk. That ANSWER was clearly given in the Notes on each
"score card" posting since the first one. You did not seem to
understand it. Why did you keep on asking, keep on asking,
keep on asking? Disk record broken?



But I, Jim/N2EY, am simply asking questions about your 'scorecard'
process, and pointing out the *potential* for inaccuracy.

Tsk, tsk, tsk. The plain simple fact is that I am giving you
ANSWERS to stupid questions whose answers were in plain sight
in every "score card" posting I've done.

That sort of thing seems to really bother you, Len.

Poor baby. You keep asking all these inane questions. Why?

Are you afraid of the RESULTS of the opinions of the "amateur
community" being against your amateur Beliefs? Sure seems
that way.

But, you've NOT made one single filing on WT Docket 05-235 as
of 5 PM EDT on 28 October 2005.

So? Is the filing of comments with FCC a requirement for asking
questions and posting comments here?

Tsk, tsk, tsk. After the tens of thousands of whiny, petulant
words, accusations, and implications in HERE, you can't even
make ONE filing on WT Docket 05-235 on MORSE CODE TESTING?!?

:-)

Who made you the moderator?

The same one who made YOU "moderator!" :-)


In fact, the LAST time you
filed ANYTHING with the FCC ECFS was over 12 months ago on a
Petition. Tsk, tsk.

What's so "tsk tsk" about that?

Tsk, tsk, tsk. After the tens of thousands of whiny, petulant
words, accusations, and implications in HERE, you can't even
make ONE filing on WT Docket 05-235 on MORSE CODE TESTING?!?

Tsk, tsk...I'm NOT "making claims."

Yes, you are, Len. You're claiming your 'scorecard' is accurate
but you won't answer questions about how it is prepared.

1. The "answers" were ALREADY POSTED in each of the "score cards"
I put up via Google. Well before you "asked" for the first
one.

2. You've gotten answers to your (petulant, whiny, accusatory)
"questions" in here...but you sure as hell don't LIKE them!

That may be changing, which is a good thing.

Who appoint you "judge" of what is "a good thing" or a "bad thing?"

3. The attitude towards morse code testing in the U.S. amateur
community has been CHANGING all along...AWAY from the old,
Old, OLD standards and practices. That seems to **** you off
greatly and makes you petulant, whiny, and accusatory. Tsk.


Here's another solution, Len: If you don't want commentary on
things you post, don't post them.

Tsk, tsk, tsk. You are telling me to SHUT UP! [but are attempting
to disguise it with uncivil "civil phrases"]

You seem to want everyone to just accept what you write here
without question, even though you don't behave that way
towards others. Doesn't work that way.

ERROR! MISTAKE!! Sorry, dearie, but it DOES work that way.

Tsk, tsk, tsk. Did God appoint YOU as "judge" of "what works"
and "doesn't work" in here? [He didn't tell me that this
morning] Do you have a Certificate of Licensure (suitable for
framing) from a Divine Authority granting you "judgement"
capability on who posts what? I don't think so...


That seems to unduly upset you. Tsk. If it bothers you so
much, just stop reading this thread! [easy solution to your
apparent problem]

You are the one getting upset, Len. Not me.

"Upset?" No. You are just another heckler out to AVENGE some
perceived slight/negativism/whathaveyou against you in the past
in a computer-modem venue.

My answers to your inane, petulant "questions" are just a way
for me to keep in writing shape. :-)


Why is that so important to you?

Why is YOUR HECKLING "so important" to YOU? :-)

ANSWER the question.


You aren't even discussing the opinions in all those 3,199
filings. All you do is try to trash-mouth those who've
bothered to look at ALL the filings. Tsk, tsk.

Seems to me that asking questions is defined as "heckling" and
"trash-mouth" by you...

Tsk, tsk, tsk...EXACTLY the technique of Dudly the Imposter in
here! [you HAVE been taking lessons from your buddie, aintcha?]

"Sweetums," you have NOT discussed ONE SINGLE filing on WT
DOCKET 05-235 since you began this heckling attempt! :-)


I read those notes. They are not comprehensive. They do not
answer several questions I have raised.

Why is that "so important to you?"

I'm just asking you to clarify your process. Is that so difficult
to understand?

Tsk, tsk, tsk. WE - most of the readers in here - UNDERSTAND
that you are just HECKLING. :-)

That YOU don't understand what others understand must mean that
your EGO has been sorely wounded...or you are some kind of idiot
so blinded by your own Beliefs that you can't understand it.


YOU are NOT in the FCC. YOU are NOT on the ARRL BoD.

Neither are you, Len.

That doesn't explain why YOU constantly pretend to be "judge"
and try to make nasty to others who state opinions contrary to
what YOU find "objectionable."

There are NO RULES in "score card" postings other than what
the poster places in public view. I have done that. Since
the first "score card" posting. The Notes given with each
"card" are clear and comprehensive.

"Asking for clarification" of yours is nothing more than adult-
language puerile petulant HECKLING done for malicious intent
of your own.


Nobody checks your work.

*I* check my work. YOU don't like it, go do your OWN scoring.


Nobody checks your work.

*I* check my work. YOU don't like it, go do your OWN scoring.


It's a very simple question.

...from a VERY unsatisfied simple person... :-)

Poor Jimmie. Keeps trying to heckle "civilly." Remains just
heckling, though, whiny petulant heckling of a four-year-old
mentality.


You've filed at least 5 different comments
and reply comments, all of which are in support of the NPRM.

Yes, and...? Are you FORBIDDING my communications with my
own government?!?

Of course not.

Then WHY do you make such a molehill out of that mountain?

Are you forbidding my free speech?

Tsk, tsk, you are impossible to suppress. Did you buy new
Energizer batteries or something?


Do they show up as a count of 1 or 5 on the tally of "for"
filings?

Tsk, tsk...you understand very poorly.

Incorrect. I understand very well. You explain very poorly.

Poor baby. Always trying to make yourself the "superior."

You don't get the answers you WANT, so you bitch and whine
and get all snarly about "poor explanations!"

Sorry, but the Nun of the Above can't elevate herself to
Mother Superior.


I've already said I count ALL the filings.

In other words, your own comments and reply comments are counted as 5
filings *for* the NPRM, not 1. Also means you're counting the multiple
filings of others, including one person who was "for" the NPRM and
filed no less than 17 filings.

Tsk, tsk, tsk...my Notes said that DUPLICATES would be counted
as "Indeterminate" category and not used for the Percentage
figures. Clearly.

The duplicate filer For the NPRM gives his name as Vincent
Garcell. Another one Against the NPRM, with 13 total filings,
is Dwayne Sparks.

The ECFS totals ALL of the filings in one Docket on any Search.
It doesn't discriminate against filings which aren't even about
amateur radio! Perhaps you ought to bitch and whine to the FCC
and Tell Them What To Do!

An alternative compilation that I have seen indicates multiple filings
by the same person. Last time I looked, multiple filings by those "for"
the NPRM exceeded multiple filings by those "against" it by at least 32
comments. That's about 1%.

Hey, Dudly II, WHOSE "alternative compilation?" WHOSE. Where
is this alleged "alternative compilation" to be found?

Why am I supposed to follow the "rules" of this "alternate
compilation?" Because YOU said so? [of course, silly question!]

So your counting method overstates the support for the NPRM by at least
that percentage.

Well then, go BITCH to the FCC and NTIA (who govern part of the
U.S. Internet) that I am being terribly "dishonest" and have me
thrown off the 'net or something! :-)

You post your results to four significant figures, yet if your counting
method is as described above, it's inaccurate by at least 1% from that
one source of error.

You poor baby. You would COMPLAIN if it was 3, 2, or 1 significant
figure. :-)



You make a lot of noise about amateur radio but you've never been a
radio amateur. And from all appearances you're never going to get an
amateur radio license.

"Motivation" is now a "necessity?!?" Of course it is. YOU are
a mighty macho MOTIVATED morseman and all must think like YOU.


So why do are you so obsessed with it?

Why are YOU so obsessed with alleging I make errors and falseness?

You DO sound a lot like Dudly the Imposter!



As you've pointed out (more than once), the "score card" is
MINE, isn't it? :-) If so, then I make up the rules,
don't I? :-) You don't like the results? Don't read the
"score card."

What you're really saying is that you cannot tolerate
opposing opinions, questions, or facts that contradict your
assertions.

WRONG. In the first few weeks of posting the "score card," the
only REAL questions appearing in the threads were those of
accessing the ECFS and how to file. By others. And answered
by another besides myself.

After the "score card" format change due to LATE notice in the
Federal Register, suddenly YOU appear with all the allegations
of inhonesty, "questions" on procedure, etc., etc., etc. :-)

YOUR whole purpose with those "questions" seems to be with your
on-going dissatisfaction with ANYTHING I post in here. There
is the question of "motivation" for your harrassment. Why are
you so OBSESSED with trying to toss me off?


The results of the NPRM and its final Report and Order will
NOT AFFECT YOU, will it?

It may. Changes in the rules of the amateur radio service may
have a profound effect on me, because I'm an active licensed
radio amateur.

Then seek MENTAL counseling. There is NOTHING to deny present-
day privileges to ALREADY-LICENSED U.S. radio amateurs in
NPRM 05-143. There are NO statements of ALREADY-LICENSED
amateurs having to do a single test or examination in order to
continue their existing privileges.

YOUR only problem is MENTAL. You should learn to accept
change, not try to maintain old, trite, tired Beliefs of
long ago.

There's very little chance that changes in the rules of the amateur
radio service will have *any* effect on you, because
you're not a licensed radio amateur, and it doesn't appear
that you'll ever be one.

The morse code test WILL AFFECT new licensees.

You have your "affects" totally BACKWARD.

On top of that, you've tried more snide uncivil "civility" in
my "motivation" towards getting any amateur radio license.

NO ONE is required to toady up to some already-licensed U.S.
radio amateur and HAVE to state "motivation." NOBODY.


FCC can also decide to change license privileges, subbands, etc., all
of which can have a profound affect on those who actually operate in
the licensed service.

NPRM 05-143 is solely about the MORSE CODE TEST, Jimmie.

The TEST. The TEST does NOT affect those ALREADY LICENSED.

The TEST affects those GETTING INTO U.S. amateur radio.

The ONLY "profound effect" [sic, not 'affect'] on those
ALREADY IN amateur radio is MENTAL. Each ALREADY LICENSED
amateur will have to work that out by themselves. The FCC
is NOT chartered as a mental correction aid agency.

Poor baby. All confused mentally and refusing to admit it!


Some days back, you posted a description of your experiences with
cb radio back in the late 1950s and early 1960s. You told us how
you installed a manufactured cb transceiver and antenna in your car and
used it. You told us the performance was *excellent* - for about four
years. Then it wasn't so excellent anymore.

Where did the excellence go, Len?

It went to the Chevrolet auto dealer in Canoga Park, CA, as a
trade-in. It was a 1953 Austin-Healey sports car with an
all-aluminum body (excellent ground plane). That "Healey"
got me an introduction to my first wife. She persuaded me to
buy the replacement 1961 Impala Convertible. She was diagnosed
with cancer soon after and died after a year. While the Johnson
Viking "Messenger" CB performed well in the Impala, I rather
lost interest in both personal radio use and that car after
that. Or do you "see" such an attitude, being the compleat
morseman you are?

There, aren't you HAPPY over having a newsgroup "opponent" go
through difficulties? Maybe you want an ice-cold emotionless
set of numbers of performance of the Viking Messenger now (I
still have that old radio)? It still meets manufacturers'
(and FCC) specifications.

Do you see how the same could happen to amateur radio?

NOT at all.

1. The 11 m amateur band of 1958 was taken away from amateurs
in the USA then, 47 years ago. It (and some other services)
were allocated to use part of it.

2. NPRM 05-235 is about the MORSE CODE TEST for a United States
radio amateur license examination. That has NOTHING to do
with "CB."

3. You try to connect (1) and (2) and there is NO possible
connection.

I'm not saying that *will* happen, just that it *could* happen.

Sigh...you have a rationalization for EVERY dumb thing you
connect, don't you?

The Sun can go nova! "I'm not saying that *will* happen,
just that it *could* happen."

A giant meteor can impact the Earth and cause widespread
devastation! "I'm not saying that *will* happen, just that
it *could* happen."

Morse code testing elimination would cause widespread suicides
of morsemen from "their world coming to an end!" "I'm not
saying that *will* happen, just that it *could* happen."

:-)


Existing licensees can be profoundly affected by rules changes.

Only MENTALLY. Their "radio world" would come to an end if
morse code testing stopped! Jimmie, do some post-grad work
in psychology...you could make a mint offering solace to
those poor, unfortunate depressed morsemen!

Since your are not a radio amateur and not likely to become one
regardless of rules changes, the NPRM results don't really affect you.

Tsk, tsk, tsk. I'm "not likely to become one regardless of
rules changes?!?"

Now you pretend to "know" the future as well as "motivation!"

Amazing gifts you think you have!

NPRM 05-235 is about MORSE CODE TESTING, Jimmie, NOT just
about ME. The point about eliminating the morse code test,
other than making the regulations better, is to give ALL
those interested in amateur radio the OPPORTUNITY to get into
it without that old, outdated, arbitrary manual test for
morsemanship.

There will be NO effect on operating privileges of already-
licensed amateurs due to elimination of the morse code test.
NONE


Judging by how often you call people by other than their legal names,
it's clear you have a lot of difficulty in that area.

Poor baby. "It's clear" you have some terrible, gnawing
dispute with anything I write in here. :-)


Y'know, Len, you seem to miss the point on a lot of things.

No. All the readers in here have gotten YOUR "point."

If they don't agree with you, you blabber out lines and
lines and lines of misdirections, personal allegations,
dredge up old, old arguments to attempt re-arguing them
again.

NPRM 05-143 is NOT about U.S. amateur radio license "age
requirements."

Neither was the previous restructuring NPRM. Yet you included
recommendations in your reply comments recommending such a limit.

I made that SUGGESTION on page 14 of my 14-page Reply to
Comments of Deignan, shown in the ECFS as of 13 January
1999. That was over six years ago. I have NOT pursued
that since except for the accusations leveled at me in
here. The "Restructuring" Report and Order came out in
late December, 1999, as FCC 99-412. I have NOT pressed
that point with the FCC since...except YOU have to drag it
out and drag it out and drag it out until that poor dead
horse has been hammered into a stain on this old highway.

"Sweetums," you want to rehash OLD stuff? You DO? Okay,
I'll try to hound you about NEVER serving your country in
the military every time you make some pontifical remark
showing your "military expertise."


But you have "a problem" with 13 year olds getting amateur radio
licenses.

No. I have a "problem" with mental 13-year-olds in here
posing as adults and who ask all sorts of inane "questions"
(that were already answered a priori) and make all kinds of
accusations...all of which may be summed up as HECKLING.

I'm not the one recommending an age requirement for a US amateur radio
license. You are.

I DID. I dropped it after 13 January 1999.

That was OVER SIX YEARS ago.

You are STILL OFFENDED over that!

So...maybe you LIKE talking to 13-year-olds on the radio using
radiotelegraphy that makes all age clues meaningless?

Does that satisfy some internal desires of yours?

"I'm just asking some questions."


That's right. Your postings are fair game for comment and
question by others. They are not somehow sacred and unimpeachable. They
are not immune to question and/or debate.

Wow! You've FINALLY gotten the picture, Judge! :-)

Tsk, tsk. You forgot to add in the part where, if YOU ask
someone something they MUST answer or you will make tens
of thousands of words in messaging if you don't get the
answers you WANT! :-)


Poor Jimmie? Double-degreed "engineer" and you can't MAKE
ENOUGH to spend over $100 on a rig? :-)

It really *is* all about money to you, Len.

Oh, oh, the commie sympathizer comes out of his closet in PA?

Well, that's a sure indication YOU don't have as much money
as YOU want. :-)

Yup...and it shows you HATE professionals for some reason.

Odd, because you claim to BE a professional in electronics.
Us readers don't know WHERE since you won't mention your
employer...not here, not to the FCC. You must be working
under a ton of non-disclosure agreements...tsk, tsk.

I'm "all about money?" Not really. Got some. Spent some.
Dropped $1100 last week at CompUSA-GoodGuys for a 27" HD
LCD flat panel TV this week and it works just dandy. [it
doesn't do morse code so I guess you wouldn't be interested
in it]

I haven't made a single cent posting in here or filing with
the FCC (negative cash flow there). Someone pay YOU to post
in here? Someone pay you NOT to file with the FCC?


I want the FCC to make NPRM 05-143 into a Report and Order...without
changes to the basic precepts in the NPRM.

Why? Those changes won't affect you.

They MAY. They WILL affect all those who desire to enter HF
amateur radio without taking a code test.

Other than mentally, emotionally, how will the removal of the
morse code test affect YOU? It won't remove any of your
operating privileges, won't make you re-test.

Oh, I understand now. Removal of the code test will deflate
the self-importance you assume as a mighty macho morseman
stressing the "importance" and "necessity" of morsemanship in
amateur radio! That would be a PROFOUND change to you
emotionally! Can't have the government make you feel bad,
can we?

Yes, removal of the code test will remove one of the key
tools of your CONTROL-oriented personality, the one where you
can assume the high horse and dictate how others MUST do!

There's always been a code test for radio amateurs, you
took one and passed, and by God and St. Hiram, so others
must DO as you did! Vital. Necessity. Follow orders.
Beat the drum constantly in the morse rhythm.

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