On 1 Nov 2005 16:18:14 -0800, "Gunny Dudly" wrote in
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Frankie of Silliland wrote:
On 31 Oct 2005 06:18:22 -0800, "K4YZ" wrote in
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wrote:
On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 02:04:36 -0700, Frank Gilliland
wrote:
Let's talk about standards, Dudly....(SNIP)
what you going on about?
For once you've gotten something VERY right, MARK.
And let's take this "standard" thing a bit further....(HUGE SNIP)
You have never disclosed your reservist status
reservist? Stevie boy is reservist?
Nope. Except, as I clearly noted, my 4 months as "Delayed Entry"
prior to going active in September 1974.
It was a wild stab in the dark by the disgraced, court martialed
liar, Mark.
I am not calling you a liar Frank but it would be nice to back this up
He can't.
Sure I can.
No...You can make silly allegations (hence your nick-name of
"Silliland") that are just pie-in-the-sky guesses.
"Proof" would be some document that actually showed my reserve
status above and beyond the Delayed Entry period...
The problem for YOU is that nothing of the sort exists.
Sure it does -- your own words.
Your DOD record confirms your service from '74 to '92 (yes, that's
only 18 years, not 20 years as you claimed when you wrote, "I spent 20
years in the Marine Corps to give people the right to exercise their
freedom of choice, and it hurts me to see so many people exercising
their choice to be apathetic!"), but it doesn't distinguish between
active or reserve. It -does- confirm your MOS as an avionics tech. It
-doesn't- indicate that you were in any medical field, in which case
you would have been a Navy Corpsman, not a Marine Gunny.
Uhhhh...Looking for that reg wherein US Marines are not allowed to
keep personal pursuits while on active duty...
If you were on active duty then you would know that moonlighting is
-strongly- discouraged. In some units it's even prohibited by the
commanding officer because the responsibilities of an outside job
usually conflict with the responsibilities of the unit. But you didn't
know that because you were never active duty; i.e, more proof from
your own ignorant words.
And you make reference as to what my "DOD" (properly DoD) record
states per my MOS's, but you and I BOTH know that that same record
shows nothing but active duty service (Delayed Entry
notwithstanding...)
Maybe you don't know -- your DOD (or DoD if you like) record doesn't
specify. I mentioned that befo ".....but it doesn't distinguish
between active or reserve." The reason is because military members
frequently change from active to active reserve, to inactive reserve,
to retired (in your dreams), etc, etc. The record states your total
time, not how it was served. And BTW, your time in the delayed
enlistment program isn't considered active -or- reserve (active -or-
inactive). Read your contract if you don't believe me.
But this conflicts with your 1998 claim that you were a "former 10
year+ EMT", which would make you an EMT -prior- to 1988, more than
four years -before- you "retired" from the Corps.
Uh huh. Six, actually.
Thee are a LOT of Marines who are EMT's...Both as Crash-Rescue
personnel on MCAS's and as "off duty" pursuits.
My first EMT card was in Pennsylvania in February 1986. PA
EMT-MAST 014402.
Where you were stationed at Camp .....?
Followed up by EMT-1A in Orange County CA in June of
1986. I also held National Registry (took that test at the hospital at
MCB Camp Pendleton) It has/had nothing to do with my MOS...Just what I
was interested in doing.
Uh-huh.
BTW...I received a CG's Certificate of Commendation in 1988 for
life-saving from CG Third MAW, then another one from the CG First MAW
in 1990 for a second event...
That EMT training came in handy!
Dudly the hero!!!
Also, in the late
'80s, (before moving to Arkansas, home state of your second wife and
your state of residence when you allegedly "retired" from the Corps in
1992), you worked in California as an ER tech at "Hoag Memorial
Hospital Presbyterian in Newport Beach, CA", which would be virtually
impossible if you were also on active duty as an avionics tech.
Uh....No...Why would having a part time job less than 10 miles from
the base where I was stationed at (and 1.5 miles from where I lived...)
be a problem?
See above, moonlighting.
Are all those Marines who work part-time jobs in Jacksonville,
Oceanside, San Diego and other USMC-base associated cities doing
something illegal?
Some were.
Is working part time as an ER tech any different than working at
Taco Bell, singing in a church choir or participating in the Big
Brothers/Sisters programs...?!?!
Yes, by the amount of responsiblity required of the job. Nobody cares
if you don't show up to work at Taco Bell or miss choir practice. But
an emergency room tech missing a shift can result in real problems.
Especially when that tech is in the military and suseptible to the
possibility that liberty could be cancelled, the base locked down, or
any of the other things that sometimes happen, without warning, that
would prevent you from even giving notice of your impending absence.
As a Marine your primary obligation is to the Corps, and I don't think
-any- hospital with an emergency room would hire a part-time EMT who
is much more likely to miss a shift than a dedicated EMT whose primary
obligation is to the hospital and patients. They might let you in as a
candy-striper.....
The ONLY way you could have been educated, trained and gained
experience as an EMT while in the Corps is if you were a reservist.
How is that? Did I violate some MCO in my 18 years by leaving the
barracks and participating in non-USMC pursuits?
Not pursuits, Dudly -- obligations.
"Leatherneck" used to publish ton's of "human interest" stories on
Marines who did exactly those things....
Name one.
Is it YOUR contention that all of those Marines were NOT "real
Marines" because they did something that wasn't associated with their
official duties?
I said nothing of the sort. You're spinning so hard now you are going
to fall down and puke.
All this information is publically available from what -you- have
written on Usenet. Of course, you can always use that "my account was
hacked" excuse, but that doesn't explain why you claimed to be in the
Air Force Auxilliary, a retired Marine Gunny, and signed your posts
with "Semper Paratus" (Coast Guard motto).
Uh...Actually I use "Paratus et Vigilans", a personal motto which
means "Prepared and Vigilant".
You have used "Semper Paratus" in many posts. For example:
===========
......[nursing is] the one "technical occupation" that I have enjoyed
(as both EMT and LPN) where more than one off my "projects" has
returned to where I work and shook my hand and said "Thank you for
helping to save my life."
Some occupation, huh?!
Semper Paratus
Steve Robeson, LPN
Chattanooga, TN
============
You even explained why you used it:
"If having great respect for an organization (the United States Coast
Guard, in this case) that goes so far out of it's way on a daily basis
to save human lives makes me a "paramilitary wannabe", guilty as
charged."
And when taken in context with the preceding post it also makes you a
praise-seeking hero wannabe.
Did I miss some law that says once someone uses a latin word in
THEIR motto, no one else can use it...?!?!
Did I say it was illegal?
Nor does it explain your
interest in pirate radio, star gazing, or your hunt for ET. Clearly
you are one very confused individual, Dudly. And as more than one
person has previously noted, you are clearly a paramilitary-wannabe
and a hero-wannabe.
I see you harbor the same "hate anyone who does more than I do"
sentiments that Lennie and Brain do...
Keep dreaming, Dudly. I couldn't care less how bad you have screwed up
your life -- it's what you claim to have done but haven't that hobbles
-your- horse.
Of course you managed to screw up the one paid "uniformed" job you
held, so I guess no one should expect you to be involved in any kind of
"uniformed" volunteer work, huh...?!?!
If the shower-shoe fits.
There's plenty more information that is publically available about
you, but I think I made my case -- using -YOUR OWN WORDS-!!!
So far, you've not "proven" a single thing.
And you have? Ok, Dudly. Whatever you say.
Unless you can show me where NO OTHER MARINE EVER worked a part
time job, went to school off duty, followed "personal" pursuits that
were not part-and-parcel of thier USMC duties...?!?!
So the fact that two-headed snakes have existed is proof that you have
one? Go soak your head. I'm talking probability here, Dudly. So far
your claims are so IM-probable that you defending them only makes the
argument against you even stronger.
Geeze, Frankie...That was a loooooooooooooooooooooooong stretch,
want' it...?!?!
Taking a vacation from your "career" as spelling cop?
BTW, what happened to your first marraige? Were you lying when you
took those vows before God?
"marriage"
Oh, I see..... it's a do-as-I-say-not-as-I-do thing with you, huh?
I didn't tell you?
Nope. So what -are- your justifications for why you failed at your
marrIAge?
He also dodges following up on all of the references I have
posted.
See above.
I see you trying to stretch some things real far, none of it
causing even "collateral damage".
Take a poll, Dudly.... who here is your friend?
That's because in doing so he'd have to eat crow...A LOT of
crow.
Although for Stevie to be Carrer Resvist? National gaurd would make a
lot of his #### make more sense now you bring it up but do you have
more than that
He has NOTHING, Mark...No "evidence", no facts, no justification,
nothing.
Wrong. I have your own words and some basic math skills.
Then it seems you also have some comprehension issues and need a
calculator.
Once again, you're the expert.
That's all I
need to prove that you are a liar.
Uhhhhh....How's that?
So far all your "math" has proven is that while I was on active
duty I ALSO had non-USMC pursuits.
Pottery, polishing rocks, building hot-rods..... those are "pursuits",
Dudly. You claim to have successfully had two concurrent careers, both
with very demanding and very conflicting obligations. Big difference.
What part of MCO's were therein
violated? Other than during Typhoon Condition 1A on Okinawa, I never
spent one minute on Barracks Restriction, and even then THAT was
"island wide".
That doesn't make sense -- the minute you didn't spend on barracks
restriction was island wide? Think -before- you type, you fruitcake.
Anyway, you clearly don't understand the difference between liberty
and restriction, something that is known by any active duty Marine
(and probably known by active duty members of the other services as
well). Like I said, Dudly -- the more you talk, the deeper you dig
your hole.
Frankie...You should try out for the part of the guy in the comic
book "Fantastic Four" that can stretch like Silly-Putty, because you
sure earned the opportunity here today!
Grow up, "Major".
Lastly...The Marine Corps, as do all the services, heavily recruit
and covet their various Reserve assets...The USMC in particular
requires the same degree of qualifications of their Reservists as they
do their active duty components.
Yes they do. Many reservists are former active duty Marines. Many
active duty Marines are former reservists. Blah, blah, blah. What's
your point?
This is not something I made up, but a matter of public record and
USMC policy.
Where did I say anything different?
I should know...I helped train Reservists at various times.
Gee, another claim about your military career. I wonder if I should
give that one as much weight as I give the rest of your claims....
So...that having been said, even if I HAD been a Reservist, I would
have had to meet the same standards as the Active Duty forces...
That's right. The only difference is that you, as a reservist, didn't
have the same experiences as an active duty Marine. And active duty
Marines didn't have the same experiences a you, a reservist. Too bad
you couldn't be proud of that fact instead of trying to pass yourself
off as something you never were -- an active duty Marine.
And considering those same Reserve (and National Guard) forces are
carrying the same load as their active duty counterparts in Iraq right
now, your "suggestion" that I may have been a Reservist as a negativism
is ludicrous and assinine.
I have nothing against reservists. I -do- take issue with reservists
who claim to be, or claim to have been, active duty when they weren't.
It's not the same and you know it. Because if you didn't know it then
you wouldn't have tried to hide the fact that you spent your entire
Marine "career" as a reservist.
What's wrong with being proud of who you are instead of trying to be
someone you're not? It works for me.
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