Richard Clark wrote:

On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 20:37:07 GMT, Ron wrote:


Assume an incoming rf signal has exactly the same strength in all 3
dimensions i.e., completely omnidirectional. Question: would an
antenna having gain capture any more signal power than a completely
omnidirectional antenna with no gain?


Hi All,

Well, it is time to discard the speculation and let modeling approach
this for an answer that at least offers more than swag.

First we strip away the sphere and solve this in two dimensions. To
do that we simply construct a ring of sources surrounding the
prospective antennas and let the winning design emerge.

EZNEC+ ver. 4.0

Dipole in Ring of Sources 11/2/2005 10:00:48 PM

--------------- LOAD DATA ---------------

Frequency = 70 MHz

Load 1 Voltage = 4.783 V. at 23.52 deg.
Current = 0.06643 A. at 23.52 deg.
Impedance = 72 + J 0 ohms
Power = 0.3177 watts

Total applied power = 2000 watts

Total load power = 0.3177 watts
Total load loss = 0.001 dB


EZNEC+ ver. 4.0

Vert Yagi in Ring of Sources 11/2/2005 10:21:32 PM

--------------- LOAD DATA ---------------

Frequency = 70 MHz

Load 1 Voltage = 1.418 V. at 25.9 deg.
Current = 0.1182 A. at 25.9 deg.
Impedance = 12 + J 0 ohms
Power = 0.1676 watts

Total applied power = 2000 watts

Total load power = 0.1676 watts
Total load loss = 0.0 dB


As the Bard would offer, there's many a slip between the cup and the
lip. For a first pass approximation, and for all the potential for
errors (which can now be routed out instead of gummed to death), it
appears that the low gain (directivity) dipole absorbs more power than
the high gain (directivity) yagi.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

Hi Richard,

What is the plane of polarization of the ring of sources, and what is
the orientation of the dipole?

73, ac6xg