In article ,
"Reg Edwards" wrote:

The best, all round, antenna is undoubtably an approx quarter-wave
vertical antenna, or an Inverted-L, on the lowest frequency of
interest, with a modest set of a few buried ground radials. An
antenna tuner is needed for higher frequencies..

The next best. almost as good, is an approx half-wave dipole at the
lowest frequency of interest, fed with openwire line, where no ground
system is needed. An antenna tuner is still needed for higher
frequencies.
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Reg.

thanks to all that replied seems a good verticle is going to win, and
avoids the rotor complexity

i already have a dipole works pretty good but i have nothing to
compare it to so a verticle might afford me some interesting
comparisons /experimenting