Bill Sohl wrote:
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Bill Sohl wrote:
Well I thnk it's time to stop waiting.
Day 7 and nothing new.
With all due respect, Bill....
Did you really expect that someone would point the way,
so that anticodetest folks could write reply comments
without having to look through all the comments?
No I doubt that Bill thinks the Procoder feel any reagrd to engage in
opne deabte we have hae in the SOP of most of the procoders here
However Bill in addresing the NG does not merely addres the ProCoder
So, answer his question!
OTOH the If the ProCoders have got something new they need to shouting
it off the roof top so the FCC might hear and consider this new point
Why mention it here?
Why not. The comment phase and reply comment phase is over.
FCC doesn't shut down ECFS on a proceeding just because the
deadline has passed.
Truth is, however, that if there was anything that could have
been described as new, even if it wasn't compelling, odds are we'd
have heard it already via ARRL (QST), Len A., or someone else.
I don't think anyone at ARRL is reading all the comments.
Len isn't a reliable source. Despite his claim that he read and
understood
all the comments, he didn't know that someone else was reading all the
comments too, and posting the results online for all to see. Even
though
the URL was on the first page of the comments, he missed it completely.
the best New point is so repceprical licenseing issues but that hardly
seems enough to turn the course (it is but a hicup issue ar best)
Logical the R&O should be by the end of the week or at worst the month
How is that "logical"?
FCC has no set deadline to produce the R&O. Given the large number of
comments, reply comments and other filings to consider, it will not be
a quick process. Remember that FCC doesn't just have to read the
comments - they
also have to decide which arguments are most compelling, cite them, and
justify their decision.
Unless you expect a new set of FCC responses to all the pre-existing
morse test arguments, the FCC's job of jusifying their decision is simply
a restatement of the R&O code test responses from 98-143 (IMHO).
Of course. But that takes time.
Even the reciprocal license argument isn't a big deal to resoond to since
not one examply appears to even exist AND there's no treaty
requirement that calls for any reciprocal licensing in any case.
Doesn't matter - FCC will most probably address that issue in the R&O.
Note that FCC doesn't have to say that a reason is a bad reason, or
false, etc. All they have to do is say the reason is insufficient.
On top of that is the fact that while the majority of commenters
support
removing the code test for General, the majority of commenters also
support keeping the code test for Extra.
That majority is a very thin one.
55% of commenters isn't a thin majority.
So if FCC wants to remove the
code test for Extra, they have to justify ignoring what the majority
wants.
Not so, the FCC is in no way duty bound to view the comments as
a "vote" with a majority vs minority outcome.
Sure they do - they just aren't required to follow the majority
opinion.
Why Jim,
even you have made that point on more than one occasion.
Once again, I ask you to look at past FCC statements that
have already addressed the need for ANY code testing.
I've already addressed that in "The Pool"...
98-143 R&O retained only a 5 wpm test based solely on
the existing ITU treaty requirement. That treaty requirement
is toast now and with its removal the last legitamate procode
test argument went with it (IMHO).
If so, why didn't FCC just dump Element 1 in August 2003? I
am still surprised they didn't.
Or, why did they reject NCI's "sunset clause" idea?
The R&Os from FCC are carefully worded, and that sort of thing takes
a bunch of time.
R&O for 98-143 took several months. This NPRM is far more
concise in the changes it proposed and shouldn't (logically) take as
long..
True. But there are more comments to read.
However the Govt is not known for its logical behavoir
I don't think you understand "logical", Mark.
Heck, none of us understand government logic :-)
One of those oxymorons like "jumbo shrimp" or "tight slacks"...
73 de Jim, N2EY