From: on Nov 16, 2:20 am

Dave Heil wrote:

In my comments to the Commission, I did not find it necessary to target
a single individual or group, nor did I use terms like "puffery",
"egregious" or "insulting".

Poor baby. Does Davie think that all against the code test
are equivalent to "two-year-olds refusing peas at dinner"
as Robert Rightsell did?

That's just typical Len behavior, Dave. Check the reply comments about
ARRL, and the one about Extra Class licenses, etc.

Pro-coders are BEYOND REPROACH!!!

WOE TO ALL WHO TALK BACK TO PRO-CODERS!!!

:-)

What Len fails to understand is that such carryings-on are simply
delaying The R&O.

Whoa! "Commissioner Miccolis" is WARNING everyone?

Jimmie, when you start working for GOVERNMENT as "official
watch-dog?"

You are barking up the wrong tree. Pizz on it.

Your organ grinder pal hasn't yet taken the
first baby step toward obtaining an amateur radio license in all these
many years.

Actually that's not quite true, Dave.

Tsk, tsk, tsk...I took my "first baby steps" in 1953, walking
into a large HF transmitter facility, working there for the
next three years. Started at age 20.

My other "first baby steps" were getting (passed in one
sitting) a First Class Radiotelephone (Commercial) Radio
Operator license at an FCC Field Office in Chicago, 90
miles away. Did that at age 23...in 1956.

Some months back, Len mentioned here that he had once, way back
in the 1950s, set about learning Morse Code. Claimed he'd actually
gotten up to about 6-8 wpm or so before deciding all the 'hard work'
wasn't worth it. That was just about the time 27 MHz cb came along,
and he jumped on that.

WRONG. MISTAKE. ERROR.

Class D Citizens Band was created in 1958. I got a CB License
(NO TEST) in 1959. Was working for Ramo-Wooldridge Corporation
then and had just transferred from the Electronics Warfare
Group to the Standards Laboratory.

I thought to give AMATEUR radio a shot in 1962, three years
LATER from obtaining a CB license. By then I'd already had
electronics design engineering responsibility and title at
Micro-Radionics, Inc., in Van Nuys, CA, and a First Phone
for 6 years and had worked among 40+ HF transmitters at one
station for 3 years in the U.S. Army. Like I "need" to
study "ham radio theory" for any AMATEUR license exam? No.
I'd never had any morse code training anywhere then, no
freebie classes in the service. Was NOT needed.

Got a reel-to-reel dupe of some code practice records and
started in with those in the "off-hours" when not doing
home work from 6 units a semester night class college
courses and playing with my first wife. Now WHICH do you
think had priority, prudey Jimmie? :-)

So, in 1962, as a staff engineer at MRI working on radar
and aircraft radionavigation test sets (up to Ku Band on
the A-6 Intruder flight deck test set) with some years of
HF and MF transmitter experience, the CB set in the sports
car already "getting dusty" and having worked with lots of
rather advanced technology DoD contract equipment...I am
SUPPOSED TO SHOW ETHICAL AND MORAL "FIBER" by learning
morse code?!?!?

What I think happened is this: Len discovered that unlike "book learning",
he didn't pick up on the Morse Code in a few quick lessons. For him it
took some 'hard work' to learn, and that conflicted with his view of himself
as a 'professional in radio-electronics'. Not only that, but learning Morse
Code would not help Len 'PROFESSIONALLY' - there was no money
reward waiting. So he gave up.

There was NO INTELLECTUAL REWARD "waiting," sweetums. Was
lots and lots and lots more of real, live technology to
learn everywhere in electronics. Still is.

Why the fork was I "supposed" to GO BACK IN TIME on radio?

Jimmie, you poor iggorant soul, even in 1962, the USE of
morse code ANYWHERE was already DECREASING. On land it
was almost done for. On RF it had already been DISPLACED
by faster (100 WPM) teleprinter "traffic" on long-haul HF
radio circuits. USAF SAC had ALREADY started the single-
channel SSB VOICE revolution on HF with DoD contracts.

Damn RIGHT there was NO MONEY in it. There was NO
INTELLECTUAL reward in it. I couldn't start planning a
family in a house or a future in aerospace by learning
morse code for an AMATEUR HOBBY activity. Sorry, Jimmie,
but morsemanship skills in 1962 didn't help me pay a
mortgage...didn't help me buy food...didn't help pay for
clothes or, later, doctor and hospice bills to come,
though I didn't know that until after...

Yeah, like morse code was "cutting-edge technology" and
"excellence in radio" in 1962? Bull****. You don't
know that because you weren't yet the great big EXTRA
super special AMATEUR license until long after and were
still a kiddie then. Hell, you couldn't even hack the
one extra test element for a FIRST 'Phone much later
and settled for SECOND Class. Tsk, tsk, tsk.

He hasn't gotten into amateur radio. He isn't in amateur
radio. He will not be in amateur radio, no matter what he writes here.

Which would lead any logical person to wonder why he's so interested
in amateur radio regulations. He won't say *why* all this matters so
much to him.

Tsk, tsk. Jimmie make "plain, simple mistake." I've already
written (it is all still in Google) that it might be FUN to
get into amateur radio. I've already written that it is an
enjoyable hobby pastime shared by thousands. Why do you
disagree with that or say I never wrote it?

Let's see...I am retired from a successful career (from regular
hours, I still do contract work IF I want to) in electronics
design engineering, have a fine house (all paid for), have a
wonderful wife (who was also my high school sweetheart), have
had enough TITLES and POSITIONS to satisfy me, half century,
a comfortable income to handle easy living now.

I do NOT NEED TO PROVE ANYTHING by getting more TITLES, more
certificates suitable for framing. I do not need my friends
and neighbors to come over and marvel at my cutting-edge radio
technology of homebuilt tube kludges designed in the 1990s; we
talk about other things and are friendly. I have ONE sole-
inventor patent and a nice plaque from RCA Corporation which
I NO LONGER display on the wall like a trophy. My wife has
THREE degrees, one BA, two MSs, and she doesn't need those
displayed on the wall; those are in storage up in Puget Sound
area weren't on display in the northern house. We are secure
in ourselves. We've "done it" and DON'T need to brag, don't
need more pretty certificates suitable for framing. The
FUTURE is just ahead and we are ENJOYING that. Why don't you
like others enjoying life as THEY prefer?

Jimmie, what of YOU? You talk as if making money is some kind
of evil, capitalistic running-dog kind of thing. Are you
some kind of closet commie? A secret socialist? Or are you
just resentful that someone else has something you don't have?

Jimmie, WHY do YOU and Diplomacy-Not Davie want to keep U.S.
amateur radio REGRESSED? Why do YOU want to hold the status
quo forever and ever? You are NOT custodian of archaic radio
arts. You've NEVER worked in 24/7 long-haul HF radio traffic
services. You've apparently NEVER done any radio activity
outside of HF. You never got a FIRST 'Phone even though you
claim to be "so educated" and that extra exam element is NOT
any intellectual challenge. You aren't, and never were, any
radio regulating person in government...yet you make out like
you "KNOW" things they do. Hell, you've never had PRIDE in
what you work at at work and try to keep your employer a
big, dark secret...you never talk about it except in very
vague descriptions and implications.

Jimmie, are you a merry masochist or a chary control-freak,
insisting that it is "morally wrong" to go against morse
code testing? You are really resentful and unarguably
antagonistic against all who "haven't done it like you did
it." WHY does everyone have to do it like you did it?
Why are you holding back uncountable newcomers of the future?

Hobbies are supposed to be FUN, Jimmie. You don't want
FUN? Are you in some strange "radio-Amish" cult that wants
to stop technology and standards and practices in a HOBBY
radio activity to the 1930s era? You talk and act like that.
You are not nice to those who want to change your fantasy,
Jimmie. You insist on having it YOUR way, to "work hard"
at a HOBBY. Maybe it's a RELIGIOUS thing to you, this
morsemanship? We all "must" worship at the Church of St.
Hiram and seek the Holy Key as penitants, perhaps as
flagellants, for some "higher calling?"

Not my "cuppa," Jimmie. HOBBIES are for FUN, for enjoyment.
AMATEUR radio is a HOBBY, Jimmie. No matter what YOUR
fantasy tells you, it is NOT vital to the nation nor is it
the highest plane of existance of man's endeavors to become
a mighty morseman. Really.

I think hobbies are FUN, Jimmie. Maybe ham radio would be
FUN for me. It might even be FUN for thousands and thousands
in the future. Yet, you want the FCC to keep regulations
that makes a HOBBY activity "hard work" or some odd kind of
"competitive sports" with attendant titles and privileges
as if in a feudal state. You want to be SUPERIOR through
morsemanship. SUPERIOR to all others with rank-title-status
in a HOBBY. All bow down to your extra-class 20 WPM lordship?

I'm "just asking questions," Jimmie.

Buy, buy for now... :-)