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November 17th 05, 11:56 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.policy

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Tsk, tsk, tsk...I took my "first baby steps" in 1953, walking
into a large HF transmitter facility, working there for the
next three years. Started at age 20.

As part of a group of 700 or so.

And not a single piece of traffic actually handled BY Lennie...

Class D Citizens Band was created in 1958. I got a CB License
(NO TEST) in 1959.

And you *still* hadn't taken even the first baby step to getting an
amateur radio license.

Let's see....you were ~26 then...

It's easy to see why he pales when he sees teenagers and
gradeschoolers passing examinations that he didn't even dare try.

I thought to give AMATEUR radio a shot in 1962, three years
LATER from obtaining a CB license.

At about 29 years of age....

And teenagers and gradeschoolers were passing the exams at all
levels then, too...

WITH the 20 WPM Morse test, sending AND receiving.

By then I'd already had
electronics design engineering responsibility and title at
Micro-Radionics, Inc., in Van Nuys, CA,

Lot of different employers for a guy under 30....

Nowadays we'd call that an "unstable work history".

and a First Phone
for 6 years and had worked among 40+ HF transmitters at one
station for 3 years in the U.S. Army.

The number of transmitters seems to grow with each telling.

Doesn't it, though...?!?!

and having worked with lots of
rather advanced technology DoD contract equipment...I am
SUPPOSED TO SHOW ETHICAL AND MORAL "FIBER" by learning
morse code?!?!?

It's up to you, Len. Back then the Novice and Technician licenses
required
only a 5 wpm test. A full-privileges General class license required 13
wpm.
You stated that you "GAVE UP" at around 6 or 8 wpm.

I imagine that "giving up" is easy for Lennie.

There was NO INTELLECTUAL REWARD "waiting," sweetums.

Sure there was - the amateur radio license and all that you could
do with it. Wasn't worth your time? Fine!

All that spectrum to roam in..."not worth it"...

Why the fork was I "supposed" to GO BACK IN TIME on radio?

There was nobody using Morse Code in 1962?

No "preeti fems" to chat with, I dare say. Ruth Buzzy's bag lady
was still just a flash in the back of her mind.

Jimmie, you poor iggorant soul, even in 1962, the USE of
morse code ANYWHERE was already DECREASING.

Really?

"iggorant".

Uh huh.

Yeah, like morse code was "cutting-edge technology" and
"excellence in radio" in 1962?

Who said that? Not me.

Do you always have to be on the cutting edge, Len? Do you have a
cutting-edge computer?

I can see Lennie in the computer store every 3 months buying the
"latest and greatest"...Heaven forbid he'd actually INVENT the latest
and greatest, inasmuch as there'd be CONSIDERABLE financial reard in
THAT!

You don't
know that because you weren't yet the great big EXTRA
super special AMATEUR license until long after and were
still a kiddie then.

In 1962 I was 8 years old

And I was seven. However 43 years later I STILL have 30+ years
MORE HF radio experience than Lennie, assuming we only count my Amateur
experience.

But considering 1962 was when my dad got his first CB rig we can
add in 13 more years. He had a "19Q" callsign for a brief while, then
KHG8459. So if we add those numbers up, MY "HF radio experience"
started clocking up in 62 for a total of 43 years today.

(At this point Lennie will bust-a-gut trying to minimize the fact
that I was in gradeschool and that the "experience" was "only" on
CB...Forgetting, of course, that he's repeatedly "counted" CB as "HF"
experience and also goes to great lengths to regale us of tales of "how
it was" with "Civil Defense" during World War 2...when HE was "just" a
gradeschooler....)

5 years later, in 1967, I was a licensed amateur radio operator at age
13. You were not.

I still had 5 years to go! But I was neck-deep in following the
space program at that point.

8 years later, in 1970, I earned the Amateur Extra license at age 16.
Between 10th and 11th grade. You were not licensed as a radio amateur
then, either.

8 years is hardly "long after" and I guess you consider 13 - 16 to be
"kiddies"...

When I finally did get my first license, I built my first receiver
from kit and the transmitter from scrounged (and some "new") parts.
The transmatch, too.

Most of my "peers" were too busy drinking and partying. I
prefered the "INTELLECTUAL REWARD" aspects of the radios. I didn't
have to worry about getting arrested and didn't have a hang over when
I'd been up all night on the air.

Tsk, tsk. Jimmie make "plain, simple mistake." I've already
written (it is all still in Google) that it might be FUN to
get into amateur radio.

"might be FUN"?

For whom? You don't say it might be fun for *you*. One would think that
after 43 years you'd know....

It took him 14 years to complete a 3 year degree, Jim...give the
"guy" some time to make his mind up! He's only been bashng USENET for
10 years over this...He's got four more to go to beat that record.

I do NOT NEED TO PROVE ANYTHING by getting more TITLES, more
certificates suitable for framing.

Not about that at all.

I think that was pretty clear demonstration of the "I Am Not
Taking The Same Test Mere Mortals Are Required To Take" attitude that
Lennie seems to hold.

I do not need my friends
and neighbors to come over and marvel at my cutting-edge radio
technology of homebuilt tube kludges designed in the 1990s; we
talk about other things and are friendly.

Then why are you so unfriendly here, Len?

I am sure he pays them well to sit and listen to his stories,
Jim...

But since he's so profit-motivated, MAYBE if we sent him a check
to get lost...?!?!

Naaaaaahhhhhhh...He'll just waste it on more Geritol...

My wife has
THREE degrees, one BA, two MSs, and she doesn't need those
displayed on the wall; those are in storage up in Puget Sound
area weren't on display in the northern house.

But you mention them and your other accomplishments here, and in
comments to FCC, over and over again.

Yet you have no amateur radio license....

I still gape in awe at Lennie's ability to intertwine unrelated
stuff into the post in order to make HIM appear more, well..rounded...

Lennie's "...My wife has..." comments smack of the same tricks he
pulled in reference to his Army duties and how he tried to make other
men's sacrifices make HIM look better...

And he thinks no one but he can see it......

You are NOT custodian of archaic radio
arts. You've NEVER worked in 24/7 long-haul HF radio traffic
services. You've apparently NEVER done any radio activity
outside of HF.

Actually, I have.

Nice thing about that Amateur license over the GROL...It ALSO has
a STATION license within...Along with attendant callsign...Let's us get
on the air any darned time we want...Not just if our employer requests
it or pays for it!

You are really resentful and unarguably
antagonistic against all who "haven't done it like you did
it."

That would be more like *you*, Len.

"...more like...", Jim...?!?!

Being a bit gracious there, aren't you...?!?!

Not my "cuppa," Jimmie. HOBBIES are for FUN, for enjoyment.

So if something isn't fun for *you*, it must not exist....

Guess that explains the lack of offspring.

AMATEUR radio is a HOBBY, Jimmie.

And much more, Len. You think the amateurs who went to help
out after the recent hurricanes were only "hobbyists" doing it for
"FUN"?

Jim, Jim, JIM!

We can't count that!

Afterall, everyone KNOWS it was an ARRL/ARES conspiracy to extort
additional funds for Emergency Services training and facilities. All
of the damage, refugees, deaths, etc, were just carefully crafted video
works of the ARRL Media Department. All of the graciously positive
press we received was just the result of well padded hands at every
major TV, Radio, Print and Internet news agency.

Why do you think the storm started with a "K"...?!?!

I think hobbies are FUN, Jimmie. Maybe ham radio would be
FUN for me.

Finally! But you're not sure?

No, it won't be fun for him.

Because sooner or later one of the "locals" would find Lennie's
hateful, deceitful and blatantly dishonest rants in this forum and the
FCC archives.

Then he'd have to "fess up" to REAL Amateurs about his behaviour.

You want to be SUPERIOR through
morsemanship. SUPERIOR to all others with rank-title-status
in a HOBBY.

Why, Len, you said you were "going for Extra right out of the box"...

As I said..."...blatantly dishonest..."

73

Steve, K4YZ