clifto wrote:

John Barnard wrote:
clifto wrote:
Repeating that lie hasn't made it true yet, and it won't. But just for
entertainment purposes, why not cite us one of those lies?

Here goes:

In August 2002, Cheney insisted: "Simply stated, there is no doubt that
Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction."

In a March 2003 address to the nation, Bush said: "Intelligence gathered by
this and other governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to
possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised."

In April 2003, Fleischer claimed: "But make no mistake--as I said
earlier--we have high confidence that they have weapons of mass destruction.
That is what this war was about and it is about."

In February 2003, Powell said: "We know that Saddam Hussein is determined to
keep his weapons of mass destruction, is determined to make more."

On July 21, 2003, Bill Clinton said on the Larry King Show, "People
can quarrel with whether we should have more troops in Afghanistan
or internationalize Iraq or whatever, but it is incontestable that
on the day I left office, there were unaccounted for stocks of
biological and chemical weapons."

Same day, same show, same Clinton, actually defending Bush: "You know,
everybody makes mistakes when they are president. I mean, you can't
make as many calls as you have to make without messing up once in
a while."

I don't believe that Hussein was able to go on a WMD after the Powell/Rice
statements and managed to obtain a huge aresenal between then and 2003.

Even if I were to take your Powell quotes, and disregard that he's a
flaming Bush-bashing liberal, your Powell quotes are a good sample in
that they show how often Powell contradicts himself. In any event, I
trump your flaming liberal Powell with a flaming liberal Clinton.

Take a look where Rice says that Iraq and WMDs weren't an issue. Does that make
Rice a "flaming liberal" as well? Does anyone that disagrees with the
Chimp-in-Chief make them a "flaming liberal" in your eyes? No way in hell is
Powell a "flaming liberal". You might want to check out the part where Tenet told
Powell a load of bull**** with regards to the WMD issue and that caused a large
rift between the two. Powell, much to his credit, was intelligent to leave the
current ship of fools.



And even if all your quotes and materials were 100% true and factual,
we still don't have a lie, only bad intelligence relayed to the public.

Sorry to bring reality to your attention but Bush took the intel available and
treated it as a menu. In other words, he cherry-picked the intel. If this were a
sports match it would be akin to fixing the outcome and he would have been turfed
a long time ago. Too bad that the Chimp-in-Chief didn't inherit Bush, Sr's
intelligence who appears to have a greater insight into the folly of trying to
remove Saddam (Time, 2 March 1998).



So keep on chanting about how Bush lied. Just don't do it around
thinking people or people who are affected by reality or facts.

So when would you like me to begin reinforcing that the Chimp-in-chief lied
through his teeth around you? If you believe that Powell is a "flaming liberal"
then you aren't thinking at all!

You name wouldn't happen to be Clifto Clavin, would it?

--
If John McCain gets the 2008 Republican Presidential nomination,
my vote for President will be a write-in for Jiang Zemin.

JB