From: on Sat 19 Nov 2005 04:32

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From: on Thurs 17 Nov 2005 18:36
Dave Heil wrote:
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Dave Heil wrote:

Here, Len uses emoticons and SHOUTS by using all capitals. His
submissions to FCC are full of italics, bold text, and numbered
footnotes.

using italics in filings on Dockets at the FCC?

Your comments look childish, Len. Over the top, flamboyant, trying to
get attention by style rather than substance.

Oh, oh...Sister Nun of the Above is pontificating in one of
her lectures again!

Sister has a habit of stark simplicity, devoid of human
emotion in the spartan classroom, a no-nonsense sterile
place where strict obediance to the Order is the rule.

But of course you never say something in three words when three hundred
will do.

BWAAAAAAHAAAHAAAHAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I remember Len referring to FCC Chairman Powell as "Mikey". As if he'd
actually address Mr. Powell that way....

No problem with me,
I'm not afraid of authority.

It's not about fear.

Sister Nun of the Above demands OBEDIANCE to the Order!

Some months back, Len mentioned here that he had once, way back
in the 1950s,

actually, the early 1960s

set about learning Morse Code. Claimed he'd actually
gotten up to about 6-8 wpm or so before deciding all the 'hard work'
wasn't worth it. That was just about the time 27 MHz cb came along,
and he jumped on that.

Other way around - he was on cb first.

No, no, NO, Jimmie, MUCH lower in frequency than that...somewhere
around 9 MHz if memory serves. Was in early February 1953, using
a BC-339 1 KW transmitter.

Built, paid for, and installed by others.

Good grief...a closet ham-Amish! Or is it a ham-Shaker?

My apologies are tendered to those in the religious orders of the
Church of St. Hiram. It's difficult for normal people to keep
track of all those cult names and be non-sectarian.

Ohm my, SOLDIERS on duty are now expected to BUILD, PAY FOR, and
DO OWN INSTALLATION of all military equipment?!?

Well, I could have sewn together the cloth of my uniforms but
don't have the experience or machinery to weave the cloth.

I could have made a wooden stock for my issue sidearm, an M-2
Carbine, perhaps taking a couple years to do it with just a
sharp-edged rock after felling a tree (with bare hands). Just
didn't have the experience or machinery to build all the metal
parts of it or make the ammunition.

That particular BC-339 transmitter was built some time just
prior to WW2 (I still remember where it was located then in
relation to the central command console). That would have
made me of mid-grade school age and I had not yet acquired
the knowledge or skills to BUILD it. Certainly did not have
the physical strength to "install" a seven-foot-high box
of iron, copper, steel, and ceramic parts weighing a ton.
There was NO ONE at that station or in the entire battalion
that could have "installed" it with their bare hands. :-)

But...that vacuum tube based transmitter OPERATED by the same
rules and principles of any vacuum tube based transmitter of
today. Laws of physics haven't changed in a half century.
One "dips the plate and peaks the grid" in tuning the final,
same now as it has been since the beginning of radio time.

Oh, you mean "did I give up" on learning more morse code?
Yes, I did. Roughly six years later in California I gave
up on bothering to continue learning morse code.

Sure - beccause it took too much time and effort on your part. It
was hard work for you, and you thought it was not worthy of your
time and effort.

Absolutely. :-) I've never regretted it since...

think that a "crime?"

No. You made your choice - you "GAVE UP".

Wow! Implications of moral-ethical perfidy!!!

" G A V E U P " Let's try to imagine that painted in Day-Glo

or as a neon sign blinking on a billboard! " G A V E U P "

Terrible heinous negative F A I L U R E ! ! !

So, is there some divine/imperial IMPERATIVE that one MUST
stay with and learn morsemanship?!?!? For a HOBBY activity?

*YES* says his imperial majesty, guided by the ever-faithful
spartan Sister Nun of the Above alternate personality!


I learned it by listening to hams using Morse Code on 80 meters. I
first had to build myself a receiver, though.

Bully bull bull to Davie for being a Scout. And to Jimmie
Noserve for "building his own receiver!"

Did you ever build a working receiver, Len?

Yes, several, including one transmitter! :-)


Such advanced teen-agers!

Actually, I wasn't a teenager when I built the receiver I used to learn
Morse Code - I was 12 years old. I built my first receiver, a simple
AM BC set, when I was 10.

A prodigal son. A budding genius. IQ to four places? :-)

Did you both get nice, pretty merit badges?

No. The receivers were their own reward.

What? Your friends and neighbors didn't come over an gush
about what a bright boy you are...like they did for your
homebuilt vacuum-tube rig made in the 1990s?


I don't see any point in learning what was ONCE the only way
to communicate in radio in order to get an AMATEUR license.

That's fine, Len. Then you don't get the license and you're not a
radio amateur. Works for me.

Tsk, then why are you so militant, antagonistic against all
those who want to remove the code test for a license?

And you've just verified what I said - you think you are too good to
have to learn Morse Code. Not worth your time and effort.

Sigh...you still don't understand other people's motivations,
Jimmie. You want all others to follow YOUR standards and
ideals. You confuse your own emotions and the LAW.

Some of us (thousands) against the code test for a license
just DON'T SEE ANY POINT OF ANY KIND in keeping that
mandated test for an old, outdated requirement. We (again
the same thousands) simply want to change the federal
regulation requiring it to eliminate that test. Seeking
that change is within our rights as citizens.

Now WHY do you insist on keeping that old, outdated
requirement? You know very well that knowledge of morse
code is NOT a physical requirement to make any RF emitter
work below 30 MHz. The requirement of demonstrated morse
code skill is required ONLY in amateur radio and some
classes of maritime radio licenses for operation below
30 MHz...by a MAN-MADE regulation. What "man" has made
can be undone legally by other "men." All have that
right in the United States.

A question for you, Jimmie: What makes you so arrogant
and superior, to think that you are so damn good that
everyone has to do what you say and think like you do
and believe in the standards that you do?


Tsk, tsk...you forget (conveniently and whenver possible)
that I'd already operated transmitters (note plural) on HF
many years before.

No, you didn't *operate* them.

Hello Steve? Are we having personality tranferences
going on in this newsgroup?

OPERATION of any radio-electronic equipment refers to
powering it on (or off as required), adjusting the
controls, making it do what it was designed to do.

Since when is "operation" defined as solely using radio-
telegraphy?

Perhaps you think that "operation" refers to some
"careful tuning across the band," listening for a
signal? [that's receiving operation and not for
single-frequency operation]

You were a technician, following the direction and
supervision of others.

Tsk, tsk, that's a variation of what goes on in the
military, Jimmie. :-)

It can be summed up in two words: "Follow orders."

Somebody told you to
put transmitter A on frequency B using antenna C and connect it
to incoming line D, and you (actually about three technicians) did that
according to a prearranged procedure.

Teamwork is a necessity to reduce TIME, Jimmie. In any
transmitter site operating 24/7 and carrying a heavy load
of "traffic," it is an absolute requirement to keep
operating as long as possible. Broadcasters know that
well, and "dead air" is a no-no to any station.

Every operating team (there were four) at ADA could do
any of the QSY tasks required among the 36 transmitters
(count in early 1953) and set up any of the two dozen
(approximate) FSK exciters on the correct carrier and
"spread" (frequency shift from Mark to Space), and being
able to read and understand the teletypewriter commands
from control. Any team could do the required operations
singly, in pairs, or in threes. Doing it by threes
reduced the down-time of any circuit since essentially
overlapping operations at three different places could
be done at the same time. We "hustled" on every QSY
order that came down...a mark of professional style in
operating...maximization of up-time during 24/7 ops.

"Prearranged Procedures": Frequencies were fixed by
order. Control setting charts were there to minimize
"hunting" for the right setting and minimize time in
setting during a QSY. Four, and later, eight trans-
mitters were gang-set by internal servo motors preset
for the proper frequency...all to minimize down-time
during a QSY. Once reset to a new frequency, each team
kept watch to see that it operated properly. There
were approximately eight different transmitter types,
all with varying controls and arrangements and each
team was trained and experienced to operate all of
them. When the ORDER is to come up and stay on a
fixed frequency, one MUST obey that order.

That's certainly experience but it's not amateur radio
experience.

It is RADIO experience, Jimmie. Radios that operate by
the SAME laws of physics as in amateur radio. Really.

ADA, like all other RADIO stations (and torn-tape TTY
relay centers) in ACAN-STARCOM-DCS did NOT have any
MOS positions for radiotelegraphers. No morse code
radiotelegraphy modes were used or required to relay
over a million messages a month in the Pacific third
of worldwide communications.

Yes, U.S. amateur radio regulations allow morse code
mode radiotelegraphy as an OPTION for licensees. Now.
That makes it "different" than all other U.S. radio
services except maritime radio service. But that is
SOLELY by man-made regulations. None of that is
any absolute requirement for physical operation below
30 MHz.

And
the FCC does not consider it as qualification to operate an amateur
radio station.

I've never argued that it did, Jimmie.

Just the same, all those hundreds of radios and thousands
of military personnel were still operating radios which
operated according to the SAME laws of physics as ham
radio.


Here's a link:

http://sujan.hallikainen.org/Broadca...s/My3Years.pdf

"my 3 years" - as if the place was all about you.

You have the wrong impression. MY EXPERIENCE directly involves
ME. [that's why possessives are used]

I do not praise myself in that 20-page article. It describes
where I was and what I did during three years of my voluntary
military service...and it ALSO describes what a lot of others
did, using as many pictures of them as survived a long time in
storage. It was all teamwork, Jimmie. It wasn't one man - one
radio - one station kind of thing common in amateur radio.

If you don't like my little paper, then download (in the same
web page) "AlphabetSoup.pdf." That is a brochure prepared by
the same Signal Battalion in 1962 and published by them. The
equipment shown is more modern than it was in 1955, reflecting
the improvement and modernization of the Army network.

You might want to tell the United States ARMY on your demand
that all radio operators must get an amateur radio license
FIRST.

No demand, Len. You're very mistaken about that.

Okay, I stand corrected. Herr Robust (Davie) demanded that.

It's getting harder and harder to tell the differences between
the super amateur extra morsement in here...

After all, it's been possible to get a Technician class license without
a code test for more than 14 years. All FCC-issued amateur licenses
have been available for just a 5 wpm code test for 15 years now.

THIRD MAJOR MISTAKE in one posting!

FCC 99-412 ordered all morse code test rates for
radio amateur licenses to be fixed a 5 words-per-minute
beginning in 2000. That was only FIVE years ago. Not "15."

Medical waivers.

Ohm my, yes. My terrible badness in accusing you of a "mistake!"

Back in 1990, it became possible to obtain any class of FCC-issued
amateur license with just a 5 wpm code test.

Was there a lot of that going around?

I didn't keep any eagle eye on the medical community then nor
did I ask for any "waiver." The only thing I wanted was for
my doctor to give me a cheery wave bye-bye and "see you next
year" after my annual physical.


Your irrational reactions here prove that Morse Code testing - and the
Morse Code itself - have an intense psychological effect on you.

Wow! Danke, Herr Doktor A. Freud.

[your analysis couch is very lumpy, Doktor, have it fixed]

I'm just an "intense" guy, Jimmie, terribly persistent. :-)

That irrationality could have gotten you a medical waiver easily

"Easily?" :-) What makes you think I "wanted" one at
any time? Had I wanted to be a beeper and self-professed,
self-defined morseman-guru-radio-champion, I would have
done so without any "waiver." But I didn't. I've never
had to use morse code for ANY purpose and certainly not
in any radio service (I've operated in more of them than
you have).

Vell now, Herr Doktor, how do you explain YOUR irrational,
preserve-the-status-quo-at-all-costs attitude FOR morse code
testing? An ultraconservative traditionalist who demands
everything to be in-place as it was when you were born?
One who won't reveal is place of "professional electronics
employment" or even anything specific on the KIND of
"professional electronics work" he does...one who keeps on
going back to his pre-adult activities and stressing that
of youngsters...and has a fascination for amateur radio
history that happened well before he was born?

Tsk, tsk, you ALMOST sound qualified as a psychologist
but your shrink-wrap is torn.

OK, Jimmie, time for you to WRITE the RONGS. "Waive" bye-
bye and go back to your beeping. Buy-buy.