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Old November 22nd 05, 11:18 AM posted to de.sci.electronics,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,sci.electronics.components,sci.electronics.design
Henry Kiefer
 
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Default "Standard parts" for rf amps?

Ok Jim. You're asked about the stray components hidden in the real
parts/circuit. If you take the values from the datasheets for die and/or
package or give it a guess if not available, and add values for the pcb
lines, you have a good simulation result. The pcb by itself is not of much
interest if you simulate not much over 100MegHz. Even starting a oscillator
with thermal noise is possible!
Sure, you must know what you're doing :-)

Spice by itself can simulate almost all if you have the right models
included - even if you wanna simulate a mechanical system. There is no
frequency limit at least to 100GHz.

Do you had bad result doing Spice?

To come back to your question: Spice will give you better results than your
real circuit! You can connect a probe with no interaction to the circuit!
Try this with your real parts! Don't forget the component variations in real
circuits coming from the manufacturing processes of the parts.

- Henry



"RST Engineering" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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Well, just for starters, what does Spice say about a 1000 pf capacitor

with
either ½" lead lengths or a total of 1" of PCB trace at 150 MHz.?

Jim




"John Larkin" wrote in

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On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 16:40:40 -0800, "RST Engineering \(jw\)"
wrote:

You are going to use Spice to model an RF circuit. DId I get that

right?

Jim



Why not?

John