On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 04:50:04 GMT, Dave Heil
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On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 02:30:13 GMT, Dave Heil
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an_old_friend wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:
an old friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
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I am not responible for anyone's decison to post
Yes, Mark, you are. You are fully responsible for *your* decision to post.
despite the fact you and Stvie lie and claim I am
You see liars everywhere. According to you, just about no one tells the
truth but you--and you've been known to lie at will.
you are a sack a @$%*
...and you continue to reveal your nature.
you proffess a religious faith then come here and violatew the word of
god in you onw faith
You violate any number of His teachings, Mark.
yes I do but that is not the point
It was certainly *my* point.
then you failed to addrs mine
i don't believe he is God therefore I am under no obligation to foolow
his comands
...and thus you can't presume to tell me how to observe my religion.
why not you presume to do so to ME about mine
and without even bothering to learn anything about the subject
For starters, you reject
Him totally
another lie I do not rejecthim totaly He said many intersting and good
things
You're trying my patience.
Yo have patience? if you say so but it isn't very much
You don't believe that God is God but you
believe that he said many interesting and good things?
I don't belive Jeus is God I beleive Jesus, was a good MAN
You find
interesting things, but they aren't interesting enough for you to
observe what He tells us.
anymore than I would accept the word of the pope or an Iman I will
listen to what they have to say but I am not required to foolow the
teaching of any man
are you antisemtic as well BTW?
You find good things, but they aren't good
enough for you to follow.
not exaclty some of them are some are not like any MAN
. I'm afraid I can't accept being lectured on Christianity by
a bisexual, polytheistic pagan.
meaning you can't face the fact you DEFY his theaching you defy God
according to your faith
Not at all. I'm directed to shun evil and evil doers. I'm bound by
those passages of the Bible which deal with homosexuality. Don't
attempt to tell me that those don't apply to you somehow because you're
bisexual.
never said that
the phrases you seem to avoid is engegance is ine sayeth the lord
(Roman 12 I believe)
or Let he who is without sin cast the first stone (one of the Gospels
You are also called not to bear false witnes against thy neighboor and
when you have lied caloinghomosexual you violate that as well
You have sex with other men. My own Church teaches that
homosexual practice is not compatible with Christianity.
and I am NOT christian
but obey the word of the LORD and let those who are without sin cast
the first stone, or do you calim that you have not sinned (a claim
that as I understand the matter would violate christain dogma
making you a hypocrite
That is incorrect. I'd be a hypocrite if I accepted your perversions.
I call that fouling the NG and the planent
I can see that it is your view.
mighty white of you
Do you have a racial comment to make, Mark?
no
You have a pretty twisted view of quite
a number of things.
your a re lying again Dave
You really have to quit calling folks liars, Mark. I'm calling it as I
see it and as society sees it. The things you outline in your advert
for sex aren't even close to mainstream thought or social mores.
a true stament is that "you feel ...." or "you belive.." when you say
you have.. you assert youur morality is fact not a matter of faith
My views are not just my own, Mark, but those of mainstream American
society.
so they are still a matter of faith
Perhaps you'd like to think that there is some great
percentage of Americans who share your views, but there isn't.
oh Id lieke to think so but I do know better
You're
part of a tiny, kooky fringe.
it does not matter to an American that rspects the constitution
and there again we have you sinning
render onto ceaser that which is ceaser's render unerwhat is gods"
thus spoke the enity you claim is the LORD GOD
obey what you say is the word of the lord, and rspect my freedom to
exist in this nation without harrasment or being required to comply
with your religous views ( even if they are the majority)
but then I am a moral person I obey the teaching of ,y faith YOU don't
follow the ditatse of yours
You're a moral person, Mark?
yes I am
Please explain just how that can be.
by obeying the teachingof my own religion
Your religion teaches you to have someone pee on you?
but it does not teach there is any wrong with it
that is you imposing your religous view on the matter
It teaches that
you should administer physical pain to another?
see the preceeding
It teaches that you
should want another to administer physical pain to you?
again see the preceeding
It teaches that
you should have sex with both men and women?
yes and that I should never miss a chance to do so
that act of sex is a holy act
don't you agree a person should do that which is holy?
What kind of religion is that?
mine and others many perhaps not but that is another matter
Does
a moral person lie at will?
I don't lie at will, but maybe you can't see the difference. But I am
taught that Truth or lie are marks of moral or imoral people
That's about as close to saying something by saying nothing as I've seen
in a while.
perhaps
I think the problem is you lack the abilty to look at the existance of
any moral frame of reference and therefore you can't understand what I
am saying. I may be wrong but that is what itlooks like to me
You've told us that you lie when it is convenient for you
to do so.
not conveneint, but when it serves my moral prupose, which surely you
can see as not the same thing
Doesn't that mean whenever you feel like lying?
no
You babbled
something about telling the truth or lying are marks of moral or immoral
people. What are you trying to say?
that lie or the lack is eneither moral nor imoral it can be either
It is under my view moral to lie in some circumstances. Indeed that
are time when the only moral coruse I can see is to lie
C'mon, Mark.
come on what?
that is my view
you don't seem to like it but them is the facts
telling a dying man a soothing lie to help his passing is the moral
and upright thing to do
Does a moral person indulge in sadistic or
masochistic bisexual behavior which can involve human waste?
nothing wrong in with any of that in my religion indeed to me hetero
or homsexual orreintation is imoral by refuses to reconize the devine
nature of mankind in general
I think you're barely de-vined. It appears that you have some peculiar
notion that only by having sex with men and women are you fulfilling
your religious duty. Sorry, Mark, we're through. That's a crock.
meaning you are wanna be theocrat
What kind
of twisted behavior is that?
now you are just making moral judgement that ONLY your faith has any
valid claim to the stauts of religion or it would apear to
constitutional protection
You can paint a ceramic monkey gold and pray to it, Mark. It isn't
going to make you appear less sick.
thuse speaks the theocrat
What sick kind of "faith" are you following?
no kind of sick faith
Ask the gold monkey.
more bull****
Dave K8MN
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he may also be making flase reports of abusing other in order to attak and cow his foes
he also shows signs of being dangerously unstable
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