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December 6th 05, 01:40 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.policy

From: on Sun, Dec 4 2005 4:35 pm

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From: on Sat, Dec 3 2005 8:28 am
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From: on Dec 2, 5:33 pm
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From: on Tues, Nov 29 2005 3:38 am
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From: on Nov 27, 3:55 pm

snip to the sissy civilian being hostile

I went to Art Center for a year at their old campus on
3rd Street in Los Angeles. :-)

Did you flunk out? Or perhaps you just GAVE UP?

I changed my studies from illustration to engineering. Career
choice change.

In other words, you GAVE UP on illustration as a career after a year
of school. Tsk, tsk.

Incorrect. I was a working illustrator, full time, before
voluntarily enlisting in the Army. I was already an art
major in high school, instructor being Richard Martikonis,
(USNR Lieutenant) for three years.

Since changing major college study to engineering, I've done
three contract illustration jobs as part-time employment for
fixed amount of contract work and compensation. I'm not
counting the art work done for Ham Radio magazine.

You do seem to flit about, Len, with all those different jobs and
activities...

"Flit?" In 54 years of working full-time since high school
graduation?!?

Is everyone supposed to enter some castle-like seminary and
sit out their whole lives producing some single product?

Or do you favor some socialist-extreme existance where you
work for a single employer (or the state) until you die?
You are welcome to that sort of rut, comrade.

You don't like CONTRACT work? Too unstable for you? Is that
somehow beneath your lofty and superior standards?

I can't "give up" something I have a natural talent for.

"Talent"?

Talent, aptitude, gifted-ability, whatever. I have it and
accept it as a normal thing.

..that's
built-in, has been used in previous employment. I was accepted
by Art Center on the basis of submitted work that I sent them.

Yet after a year you GAVE UP.

I thought I changed majors. :-)

I hadn't learned anything new about illustration in that first
year at Art Center. :-)

Tsk. You are being HOSTILE again, trying to say I "flunked out"
or "gave up."

How is it being hostile? I'm pointing out that you GAVE UP on
illustration as a career.

Tsk, tsk, I changed career goals. I've told you twice that
I did NOT "give up" and that I've done illustration on a
contract basis since that change.

You are trying to load negativistic words into what I explained.
Ergo, you are expressing hostility by refusing to accept what
I've already done.

Texts and old books seems to be where you get your "experience."

Well, you're wrong about that.

That MUST have been where you got all your "military expertise."

Nope. Guess again.

This isn't a "guessing game," little boy.

Show me some proof of YOUR military experience or shove it up
your military-impersonating I/O port.

Sorry, I was VERY INVOLVED in illustration.

But not in Morse Code.

Absolutely! Hadn't used any morse code in REAL HF radio
communications, didn't need to. Hadn't used any morse
code in the electronics industry, didn't need to.

And you GAVE UP on both illustration as a career and learning Morse
Code at the very modest speed of 13 wpm.

Tsk, tsk, tsk, those are NOT related items. :-)

Can you draw pictures in morse code? Send video information?

BWAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!

I was VERY INVOLVED
in radio and electronics. Both for over a half century.

Past tense, I see.

I'm not tense. Are you tense? See your doctor for some Xanax.
I here that is good for folks like yourself who are tense about
tenses.

Maybe you should take up camping, sleep outdoors in tenses?

?? I'm a lot healthier than you, Len.

How do you KNOW? Are you medically qualified? :-)

You were trying to threaten me physically. You've done that before,
Len.

Oh, my, you ARE mentally disturbed! See your physician
immediately.

He also got current flow in the wrong direction...:-)

Nope, he was just ahead of his time. He described the flow of holes
rather than electrons.

BWWAAAAAAAAAHAAAAHAAAAHAAAHAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !

Jimmie, you are friggin' weird on that.

It's good stuff. Our country was born right here in
Philadelphia.

Been there.

NADC to be exact, right? You weren't exactly begged to
stay there, were you, Len?

The Naval Air Development Center, Warminster, PA, is
located outside of the city of Philadelphia. EXACTLY
I've been IN Philadelphia and IN Camden, NJ, just
across the Delaware River from Philly.

Considering that I was an employee of RCA Corporation
before, during, and after I visited NADC as a field
engineer, I was never approached to join them for any
employment and neither did I seek to get employment
there. I got along fine with NADC civilian and military
personnel there, did my assigned, pre-established work,
departed for my home in California.

I've explained all that before. You again choose to
attempt to CHANGE it to suit your hostile intent.

I've worn the UNIFORM of the United States Army. I've been
under the UNIFORM Code of Military Justice for four years.

Yet you messed up on what "UCMJ" meant.

Never ever while UNDER the UNIFORM CODE OF MILITARY
JUSTICE. That ended 49 years ago for me.

I acknowledged accidentally writing "universal" instead
of uniform a few days ago. I did go to UNIVERSAL CITY
after writing that to meet with some friends. Since the
DD-214 form is applicable to ALL branches of the military
I just made a mistake in associating the word "universal"
with the subject.

In case you've noticed, Lord High Whatever, this newsgroup
is NOT a court of law and no perjury has been committed
over a writing mistake in trying to explain a military
thing to some sissy civilian non-military-veteran.

As far as I'm concerned, there was
NO "vote for 'CW'" as Speroni put his "analysis" of
NPRM 05-143 commentary in WT Docket 05-235.

There are none so blind as those who will not see. You can deny
all you want, but 55% of those individuals who expressed a
preference in comments on 05-235 supported at least some
Morse Code testing. Only 45% supported complete
removal of all Morse Code testing. That's a "vote for CW" to
anyone who thinks rationally.

There are none so blind as the PCTA who insist that
manual morse code testing is "necessary" for a hobby
radio license examination.

There are none so blind as the PCTA who cannot see that
morse code is a dying mode in radio communications.

There are none so blind as the PCTA who cannot see that
all other radio services have GIVEN UP on using morse
code for communications.

"Rationality" is NOT defined as "being 'for' morse code."

Of course the FCC doesn't have to follow that "vote" and
probably won't. But to deny its existence is to deny reality.

There is NO "vote" concerning NPRM 05-143. That's
reality.

The FCC has proposed eliminating ALL code testing for
amateur radio license examinations. That's reality.

The FCC has, in the past two years, allowed the public
to comment on no less than 18 Petitions regarding code
testing. That's reality.

The FCC has NOT seen any "consensus" nor a real "majority"
of opinion for or against morse code testing for an
amateur radio license in the comments concerning amateur
radio regulation petitions. That's reality.

The FCC isn't a clubhouse manager for U.S. amateur radio
to allow ONLY already-licensed radio amateurs to comment
to them. That's reality.

The Commission
was notified on what I thought/analyzed in my Exhibit filing
of 25 Movember 2005 along with a final tally sheet of
the four categories of general comment opinions.

Yes, you spammed them with dozens and dozens of pages
of your verbiage.

My 25 November 2005 filing only had 13 pages, 5 of which
were of tally sheet tallies. NOT "dozens and dozens."

I feel sorry for the poor souls at FCC who
have to read all the worthless junk you send them, Len.

I feel sorry for you, sissy civilian, for having such a
hostile attitude towards freedom and equality in a radio
hobby pursuit.

Yes, Len, we know you can't deal with facts and opinions different
from your own.

:-) You are really going the way of Dudly the Imposter.

I DEAL with them as they occur.

You deal by denial.

I DEAL with things based on my own experience and observations.

I DEAL with things based on what happened in the real world
of communications.

I DEAL with dump hucks as I see they deserve.

If you don't like that DEAL, go to another game and ask for a
marked deck. That's your style.

If someone had written Reply Comments to every procodetest
comment, your system would have counted them as separate
opinions even though they had the same author. That's not a
valid way of analyzing opinion. In short, it stinks.

Go stuff it in your I/O port, morseman.

More important, you didn't follow the rules on Reply Comments
back in 1999.

"Rules?" The "rules" are given by the Commission,

That's right.

And you didn't follow them back in 1999.

Well then, you are over 6 years LATE on bringing me up on
"charges" before the Commission, aren't you?

Make a "citizen's arrest" if you want. Hire Phil Kane
if you can. :-)

You will retain your full amateur rank-status-privileges
regardless of whether the code test goes away or stays.

It's not about those things at all, Len.

No? Then why are you so worried and agitated by it?

Code testing doesn't involve you at all.

Yes, it does. If the Amateur Radio Service is changed for the
worse, I am affected.

"For the worse?!?" BWAAAAAAHAHAHAHHAAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tsk, you've lost your grip on reality.

PCTA can accept only THEIR concept of reality. Unreal.

Besides, you seem to think that one brave act means all must defer
to your opinions and whims. Doesn't work that way.

WHAT "brave act" have I done before the Commission?

Go against the mighty macho motivated morsemen on code testing?

Hardly a "brave act" to slap around some beep-happy old
morsemen who are mired in their thinking and unable to
accept change.

Suppose you had been born in 1954, Len.

That would have been an interesting alternate universe
considering I was already IN the U.S. Army billeted in
Japan then and had advanced to E-5 rank...and my
parents (both naturalized U.S. citizens) were nowhere
near Japan at the time. :-)

Would you have volunteered to fight in Vietnam in 1972?

The Southeast Asia Live Fire Exercise (Vietnam War)
has already been OFFICIALLY designated as being
August 4, 1964 to January 27, 1973 (date of ceasefire)
by the U.S. Department of Defense.

Oh, now I understand, would I have volunteered to fight
FOR North Vietnam IN Vietnam in 1972? Most assuredly
NOT. Most unequivocally NOT for the North!

In 1972 I had already been discharged from all military
obligations of the United States (my discharge was in
1960) and I had been, and was, working on Department
of Defense contracts for electronics. In 1972 some of
my work was on the Seismic Intrusion Devices (SIDs)
that were intended to be used in Vietnam. [those used
radio to report detected intrusions]

In case it has escaped your movie-conditioned little mind,
the United States has had a WORLDWIDE military presence
since the end of WW2. One does NOT 'volunteer to fight'
anywhere, in any service. One either gets drafted (the
compulsory military service "draft" ended 27 January
1973) or volunteers to "defend the Constitution of the
United States" and must accept whatever assignment
anywhere as deemed necessary by the DoD. Nobody got
a "choice of where to fight" unless one was the son of
a prominent politician (Shrub) or some entertainment
personality (Elvis).

In other words, you and your neighbors wanted to stop other people
from building certain types of buildings on *their own land* - because
it would mess up your *view*.

The only "other people" were contractor firms. Nobody owned
"their own" land yet until the development was finished and
inspected and approved by the city.

The neighborhood organization was against the ZONING change
from "R" (pure residential) to "R1" (residences plus
aparments). The original plan was for "senior citizen
apartments" which we neighbors did not like. Yes, a two-
story house or apartment would block my VIEW that I enjoyed
for over 30 years here.

Perhaps you want me to sit back and take whatever
"authorities" toss at me without complaint? HELL NO!
None of us neighbors did. We showed up at the Zoning
Commission meeting and made our voices heard. It was for
naught according to a later investigation of graft on the
part of the Zoning Commission. That parcel of land got
rezoned to R1 over a decade ago and that was that. No
action on development until several years later.

Perhaps you weren't really learning the REAL Ben Franklin
or even REAL history prior to 1776. Franklin was a
royalist to begin with. Took him a VERY long time to
actually side with the "revolutionaries." [recorded
history, by the way] WE neighbors weren't sheep nor
anything like that and protested.

after spending 9 months of re-arranging the vacant land.

How does anyone "rearrange" land? With a bulldozer?

All manner of earth-moving equipment were used to move
220,000 cubic yards of soil (value from contractor
final report, initial estimate was 250,000 cubic yards).
Actual earth moving took eight months until the final
moving was done for drainage, roadway, and forming the
final lay of each plot.

Nine months of the OHSA back-up beepers getting us up
at 7 AM each working day of the week and some Saturdays.

44 homes on 15 acres is about a third of an acre each.

WAYYYY INCORRECT. You are assuming flat land. Nowhere
near that. Final building plots were on a quarter acre
each average.

Half a million each is a starter home, right?

Subjective.

So - you thought your "view" was more important than
the newcomers' property rights.

No, our neighborhood organization was against changing
the ZONING from pure residential to residences-with-
allowed-apartments.

You thought that those
15 acres should not be developed, even though you
didn't own them.

Our neighborhood organization would accept the original
"R" zoning rating of single-family residences. The
Zoning Commission heard that. We objected to the "R1"
zoning that allowed apartments.

You resisted changes that brought in new people and more progress.

What "progress?" :-) You have no huckin idea of what
the development was/is, its original shape, the shape it is
in now, landscaping or anything else. You are trying to
toss out nasty sarcastic bad words to us that were here
before them. :-)

The SECOND developer managed to develop a walled community
that houses about 150 total, nearly all with little bitty
yards separated by concrete block walls.

Right now there's a possibility of civil action by two
neighbors where the original slope to the edge of the new
walled community gave way and inundated their property.
We'll just have to wait for that to sort itself out.
Meanwhile, you will no doubt make nasty remarks to my
old neighbors for DARING to PROTEST part of THEIR land
from being covered? :-)

You clung to the past and tried to hold back the future.

I'm sorry, but you just don't grasp this NON-RADIO situation.

ZONING laws, particularly in residential areas, ARE where
the past is protected...for those who ALREADY live there.

And you failed.

Yes, we did. I reported that. :-) That's the breaks in
political situations.

And you FAILED.

Yes. But ONLY for the ZONING change. We were able to
enrich the pockets of some Zoning Commission members from
payola from the first contractor...which led to him going
out of business. :-) The second contractor is not in a
good situation either since that company is forced to
settle one way or the other.

NO apartments were built, only single-family residences
were finally built. That is a partial victory although
the Zoning rating still allows for apartments on that land.

What I find most interesting is that you fought change, progress,
and newcomers. And you thought your views should count for
more than the wants and needs of those who owned the land.

What I find "interesting" is your continued hostility and
ignorance of the situation, even when explained to you.
I have well over a hundred images showing the earth-moving
and the house building, have a small box of documents that
go back 15 or so years on that parcel of land, copies of
plans, etc. Our neighborhood organization didn't take
anything lightly.

What spin? What fabrication? What lies?

All that you've tried to "charge." :-)

I simply point out that you and your neighbors feared and opposed
change in the neighborhood. That's the truth.

OK, I simply point out that you are ignorant of the
situation and you are a dump huck.

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