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Old December 21st 05, 01:19 AM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
SeeingEyeDog
 
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"John S."

Yo buckwheat...you were the one who said the commies were trying to
drive Eton out of business. Eton is nothing more than a distributor
and marketer of Degan/Tecsun products. Just a warehousing and order
operation and nothing more. If Tecsun/Degen wanted to kill of a major
distributor of their products as you stated then they would
do so by cutting off the supply of radios.


Yo, ignorAnus


Really. Now that is indeed interesting. I catch the shuttle to NYC on
business regularly. I don't remember any convetion of the Chinese
Communist Part having been held in NYC in the past 5 years. Maybe it
was really small - almost microscopic. Or more likely it was just a
figment of your imagination.


You obviously missed the Lou Dobbs segment on CNN.


The worldwide market for shortwave radios has all but collapsed.


Yo, ignorAnus, you don't know about a Communist Party sponsored trade show
in NY and your spouting ignorAnus economics.


If it
were otherwise then Sony. Panasonic, Sanyo, Kenwood, Yaesu, Icom, etc.,
would still be in the market merrily selling shortwave radios.


Go back to Macro economics 001

Fact is
there is not enough demand to justify production of HF receivers.


That's interesting, Icom, Kenwood and Yausu make plenty.
Fortunately Communist Party factories havn't figured how to build them.

The
chinese are satusfying any domestic demand for shortwave. But the fact
is chinese consumers will turn rapidly to domestic broadcast, Ipod,
internet and satellite for radio transmissions. Just like the rest of
the world.


My my, you spout some interesting expurtese.
The Chinese Communist Party has the largest shortwave network in the world.
Most of it is used for domestic broadcasting - d'oh!

If a chinese SWLer wanted an Eton product they would just have to buy

a
Tecsun or Degen. I'm at a loss as to why a chinese national would

want
to pay the inflated Eton prices.



Then why did you say the chinese were being prevented from owning an
Eton. Your original statement makes no sense whatsoever.


Nothing makes sense to you when you havn't the basic knowledge to even
begin.

SSB radios are illegal in China and individuals cannot import them without
loads of Communist Party Red tape.
They are illegal to operate unless you are a licensed Communist Party ham or
a guest of a Communist Party Ham radio club. Understand Bozo?

Is it any wonder to you why accessing SSB on Degen radios are obfuscated?

Not many Sony shortwave radios to be found in chine bcause they are

not
making any.


Huh?


Put simply so that you can understand, Sony has backed out of the
shortwave market. Expect that they will drop the 7600 very soon. As
mentioned previously there is a fundamental reason Sony along with all
other significant manufacturers of shortwave radios have dropped out of
the sortwave radio market over the past 20 years. It is called no
demand for the product.


It is precisely why you should buy a Sony product other than the fact Sony
SW receivers are superior.

The lack of demand is componded by the barrier to entry in the Communist
China mainland.
Have you figured out the score yet birdbrain?

And because China hasn't opened it's market to outside
products.


D'oh! That's a revelation?

Not unlike Japan and the good old USA with their import
duties.


Import duties on Eton, Sony, Tecsun, Kaito, Degen Kochibo... radios?
I think your lieing.



The good old USA like most other nations extract import duties on a
wide range of consumer products.


Shortwave radios from China & Japan? - LOL

I'm not lieing, nor am I lying, nor
am I liing, nor am I lyeing. Hint: the correct spelling is lying and
in that sentence you should have used you're rather than your.

Had a tough time in school I take it.


D'oh, I see the spell cop has arrived with the typical personal drival.
A sure sign of a personal problem. At least you can parse.



Still, I've seen more than one chinese SWL's website with
extensive collections of radios that include several old Sony and
Panasonic radios as well as numerous chinese brands.


Re-read what I posted. But you go to China and try to amass the same
collection and see how many years it takes on an average salary of $400

a
month.


There are numerous SWL clubs in china.


Numerous? You just said SWL is dead. You make absolutely no sense and
your knowledge about SW radio in China is practically nil.

I have been to China, but not
to buy shortwave radios.


Tourist? LOL

Someone making $400.00 per month in China
would be reasonably well off actually.


Reasonably? Sure, if living in a company provided two room apartment, free
water & heat, along with the rest of your family.
No need for health insurance as you are given the "great care" from
Communistm Party hospitals. "Great dental" too if you have any teeth to
worry about. Sounds reasonable to me - LOL!

But still they probably would
not be interested in spending food money of frippery like shortwave
radios. But low income people in the US are faced with the same
decision - food or fun. How many collecitons of shortwave radios do
you suppose there are in Appalachia or southeast DC.


Let me see, the economy is the fastest growing in the world, it is arguably
the 4th, 5th, 6th largest economy in the world if you beleive Communist
Party statistics - LOL! Yeah, the poverty level population of Appalachia is
as large as Chinese pheasants - LOL! Your logic is amusing.


I'm completely missing your point here. You seem to be trying to

prove
some sort of chinese conspiracy....


Your completely niave and ignorant of Chinese business practices.
For that reason they would love to be your partner.


Be careful on what you spend your hard earned money.

For sure. That's why the Degen DE1103 from a chinese seller is such a
great buy!


It's a great buy because they are dumping a product assembled by slave
labour.
If it continues you will soon be able to buy ONLY Chinese radios. At

which
time they may decide to limit the tuning to only a select few of CRI
frequencies.



I have no idea what dumping means. They are selling it at a profit
because their cost of production is much lower. And we do like our
bargains don't we. That's why places like WalMart and Home Depot do so
sell. They buy much of their products from the lowest cost
manufacturer which happes to be China for now. We have also looked to
Eastern Europe, India, Indonesia, Korea and Japan for cheap goods.

YOUR HOOKED!


ON WHAT?


On ignorAnus ideology.