Larry wrote:
On 29 Jan 2006 20:42:04 -0800, K4YZ wrote:
Larry wrote:
On 28 Jan 2006 20:16:11 -0800, K4YZ wrote:
Larry wrote:
On 28 Jan 2006 06:12:03 -0800, K4YZ wrote:
Greetings All,
Are any of you equipped to work the ISS crossband repeater?
Actually, you don't need crossband capability to use the ISS repeater.
Actually you do when the input is on 70 centimeters and the output
is on 2 meters. That's what "crossband" means.
Actually, I stand by my original statement: You don't NEED crossband
capability to use the ISS repeater.
At some place there is a receiver and a transmitter operating on
different bands in order to operate the ISS crossband repeater.
From http://www.rac.ca/ariss/oindex.htm#F...ies%20in%20use --
"The following frequencies are currently used for ARISS general QSO's
Voice and Packet Downlink: 145.80 (Worldwide)
Voice Uplink: 144.49 for Regions 2 and 3 (The Americas, and the Pacific)
Voice Uplink: 145.20 for Region 1 (Europe, Central Asia and Africa)
Packet Uplink: 145.99 (Worldwide)
Crossband FM repeater downlink: 145.80 MHz (Worldwide)
Crossband FM repeater uplink: 437.80 MHz (Worldwide)"
See the 2M uplink frequencies? That means you can stay in the 2M band
if you wish, and that crossband is optional, just as I originally
stated.
My INITIAL question was about operating the CROSSBAND REPEATER in
the first place, and nothing you have posted here changes any of that.
Your "uplink" frequencies are accurate ONLY for direct voice
contacts with the crew or packet uplinks to the NA1SS autobot...NOT the
repeater.
If you wish to work the CROSSBAND REPEATER you must have the
requisite equipment (unless, of course, you're just going to use
someone ELSE'S equipment by using Echolink.....But you are STILL
operating CROSSBAND)
Did you make your alleged OSCAR contacts by just "pushing a
button", or did you have to know a bit about Kleperian tables, AOS/LOS
schedules, polarization techniques, Doppler effect...?!?!
Those were the days of 2M home brewers; not the repeater appliance
operators who later dominated the band. I built my own transmitter
and used a low noise down converter in front of a 10M receiver. By
the way, those are "Keplerian" tables, and nobody in his right mind
would use those things when simple-to-use orbital nomographs were
readily available.
My misplelling noted, however nothing is changed.
But there *is* skill in figuring out optimal voice sampling and
compression techniques, combining them with the optimal IP protocol
(UDP/IP), and then writing and installing VoIP software to accomplish
that end, followed by setting up servers and repeaters to support it.
In fact, I submit that the hams who embraced the Internet and
developed those methods are among the most technically skilled members
of the amateur community.
I submit that there is a whole flock of guys out thre who just
down loaded the software and got on the computer when they were told
to. I know of at least 2 or three locally who have done exactly that.
If all you do is push a button, then you're an appliance operator in
my estimation.
Judging by the foregoing statements, I'd say you're probably not a
licensed Amateur and are just pulling rabbits out of someone else's
Actually, I've been licensed longer than you have, but my ego doesn't
depend upon my ham license.
Nor mine, however since you don't seem to have what it takes to
put your name behind your words, they may as well be penned by Ton
Clancy.
Nor am I stupid enough to put my name or
call in front of convicted felony stalkers such as W4AMP.
To the best of my knowledge, he's not a resident of this group.
Moreover, despite the childish whinings of KB9RQZ, there's not a person
here who's been in 1 seconds worth of danger due to "stalkers".
It's a lame excuse for not having any conviction.
I have been
licensed since I was 16, which makes my license term in excess of 40
years now.
Congratulations.
I've also published articles in several radio magazines, including a
cover article featured in Ham Radio Magazine.
Oh geeze....NO WONDER you sound like Lennie!
And no wonder "Ham Radio" is a footnote in Amateur Radio rather
than an active part of it!
hat. And as for applicance operators, who built YOUR computer...?!?!
I contributed to its operating system (Linux) and have been active in
Linux development since 1992. Some of my software can be found in
both the Red Hat Fedora and Slackware Linux distributions, to name two
distros I've recently checked. You can also find my software on major
distribution sites such as http://www.ibiblio.org.
Well congratulations then. I am sure you're happy where you are.
Tell me: What software have YOU written for YOUR computer lately?
I haven't...but then I didn't suggest that I did!
I was discussing Amateur RADIO.
Now I have to terminate this "conversation." Getting into a ####ing
contest wasn't my original intent, but you've drawn me partially into
one, and now I must extract myself from it. If you still think I'm
bloviating, so be it.
You ARE "bloviating".
I've pointed out in each and every post where I was discussing the
crossband REPEATER and you keep trying to discuss something else.
The ONLY Amateur Radio voice repeater on the ISS is the CROSSBAND
one.
And a "####ing contest" certainly WAS your objective when you
found it necessary to "answer" an inquiry with answers that were, in
their very nature, confrontational and NOT within the parameters of the
initial inquiry.
I'm outta here.
Don't let the door...well...you know...
AMF.
Steve, K4YZ