Dale Parfitt wrote:

Better read this before we start discussing that a loop can distinguish
noise sources.

True enough. I had to go to fairly extreme lengths to find a permanent
location for the Wellbrook because it was picking up noise. In the end,
I needed to locate it in exactly the same spot I'm using the H-800 in
now. The Wellbrook is definitely quieter than the H-800, but it's not
uncommon for me to make out signals on the H-800 that I cannot make out
on the Wellbrook--no doubt for many of the reasons Telemon described
(polarization, frequency, time of day, etc.). Don't get me wrong: The
Wellbrook is the better antenna overall, but the H-800 doesn't get
nearly enough credit in my view. It's significantly cheaper than the
Wellbrook and is manufactured right here in the good ole' U. S. of A. I
think it's an excellent value.