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Old February 12th 06, 09:55 PM posted to rec.radio.shortwave,alt.home.repair
Ralph Mowery
 
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Default Want to replace old flat tv cable with better coax.


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On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 13:25:44 GMT, "Ralph Mowery"
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"Tony Hwang" wrote in message
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jg wrote:


Hi,
Twin lead also has better quality foam ones not the skinny twirly kind.
Coiling up extra coax is not a good idea it can act like RF choke and
could lower signal level.
Tony


Coiling up extra coax wil not make it like a RF choke and will not lower

the
signal level. As long as the coil diameter is large enough that the

center
conductor does not cut into the iner insulation and short to the shield,
nothing on the outside of the coax will affect the strength of the

signal.
The signal is carried on the inside of the outer shield. Coil up all the
extra you want. One thing that will affect the signal is if you have way
too much coiled up (like 20 or more feet) is the extra loss in the length

of
coax. YOu will get the same ammount of loss if it is coiled or just ran

in
a line.

If you are transmitting , coiling up the coax may have a benifit as it

will
act as a choke and keep the transmitted rf that is coupled from the

antenna

You sound like you know what you're talking about, but one thing gets
me. Here you say it will act as a choke and at the start of the
previous paragraph you say it won't. Why does transmission have a
different result from reception, or is there some other difference?

from getting back to the transmitter. Discussion on this is beyond the

TV
application and not needed here.


I have been a ham radio operator for over 30 years and at one time held a
first class phone license that was good for the comercial radio repair.

When receiving the signal comes from the antenna it comes down on the
outside of the inner wire and the inside of the outer sheild. Unlike
Direct current which uses all the wire area, as the frequency goes up, the
signal only uses part of the area. That is a copper tube can carry just as
much signal as a solid wire the same diameter. Large coax (usually called
hardline) is often made this way. There is nothing useful on the outside of
the shield of the coax. In otherwords everything from the receiving
antenna is on the inside of the coax and coiling it up has no effect .

When transmiting it is possiable that some of the signal from the antenna
will couple or be introduced on the outside of the coax. This unwanted
signal will come back down the coax on the outside of the shield and can
cause problems with the transmitter and other electronics in the house. If
the coax is wound in a coil it may choke off this unwanted signal. The coil
is usually placed outside the house .