however what i am looking for is a specific method of programming,
communicating to the radio via means other than cloaning mode commands
i need to find out witch rig's 2/440 have that specifically as an
option

The Kenwood ts-2000 has commands which allow the reading and writing
of specific memories, direct VFO tuning, and so forth.

It's sorta expensive if used only as a 2m/70cm rig, though.

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