Gene Fuller wrote:
Indeed, it is clear from the quotes that the two treatments
are equivalent.

And indeed, the two treatments are equivalent for anyone who
understands both of them. The two treatments are obviously
not equivalent for someone who understands one and not the
other. It is an individual ignorance problem, not a problem
with the models.

If the standing wave analysis results are reported by an
individual to be different from the traveling wave analysis
results, what can we assume? If they are equivalent, why would
the results ever be different except for the ignorance
of the reporter?

Here is a 'yes' or 'no' technical question for everyone.
Is it possible to measure a phase shift through a wire
or coil using a signal (standing wave current) that
doesn't ever change phase?

The answer to that question is the entire crux of the
argument. If anyone answers 'yes' to that question, please
explain in detail how to accomplish that measurement feat.

Of course these authors were disadvantaged by a lack of understanding of
your "hidden mathematical concepts." 8-)

I thought we had agreed to stop using inuendo to try to
influence a technical argument. The mathematical concepts
are certainly NOT hidden. They are there for all to
understand and accept but are being ignored by certain
individuals.
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73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp