Gene Fuller wrote:
Cecil,

I never in my wildest dreams said anything about Tom's measurements.
(Perhaps in your dreams.)

I don't believe that Tom set up a simple standing wave antenna and then
tried to measure the phase of the standing wave.

You seem to have forgotten, but a few days ago you were vehemently
arguing that the bugcatcher coil in your mobile antenna must have X
amount of phase shift. My comments, which may have proven too
successful, dealt only with the basic fundamental properties of waves.
That's the sort of thing that everyone should have learned in elementary
school, but such knowledge seems to be fleeting for some people.

Roy measured a real antenna for phase, I measured a moblile antenna for
current.

http://www.w8ji.com/agreeing_measurements.htm