Gene Fuller wrote:
I thought we already agreed that there is no phase shift in the real
environment, namely, a nearly pure standing wave environment.

There's no phase shift in the standing wave current in 45
degrees of straight wire. Doesn't that tell you something?
You said yourself that the standing wave current phase
doesn't contain any phase information.

Here's what you guys need to do to convince me that you are
right.

1. Develop a coil acceptable to EZNEC that resonates an 8
foot whip on 4 MHz over mininec ground. Send me a copy of
the EZNEC file.

2. Put the same coil in the traveling wave environment as
I have done at: http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp/test316y.GIF
and report the phase shift through the coil. Send me a
copy of the EZNEC file.

If you are so right and I am so wrong, that shouldn't be
too difficult for half a dozen gurus (including the
developer of EZNEC).
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73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp