Cecil Moore wrote:
John Popelish wrote:

The definition of "local" is wavelength dependent.

Since the reality in which we exist has been proven to be
non-local in nature, I'm wondering what is your point?

Go back and ponder what I wrote.
Too much has been clipped for my elaboration to have any continuity.

Back to the RF case: Do you imagine that electrons from the source
reach the load?


Maybe for DC. But depending upon the length of the transmission
line, probably not for HF RF. Is that a rhetorical question?

It is a koan.

Someone needs to tell that to W7EL. I've tried to tell him but
instead of thanking me, he 'ploinked' me.


Perhaps he has lost interest in this thread.
Perhaps he is taking this topic personally.
Perhaps he enjoys yanking your chain.
Perhaps ...


... he is afraid of losing his "expert" status?

What does any of that have to do with our conversation?


Everything. That's what this thread is all about. I will repeat:

Can the standing wave current phase, with its unchanging phase,
be used to measure the phase shift through a wire or coil?

That's the admittedly narrow present topic. The answer is either
'yes' or 'no'. After we answer that narrow technical question,
the discussion can procede.

I have answered with my opinion on that subject many times, already.
I am trying to help you build your understanding of it, so you can
argue it more persuasively, and understand it more completely. I'm
doing it in public, to invite corrections from anyone who sees errors
in my thinking, and can explain them to me.

If you have no interest in anything but butting heads with the people
who have disagreed with you, then, please stop responding to my posts.

You have that choice.