Cecil Moore wrote:
Michael Coslo wrote:

Not that I could fan the flames any more anyhow, but just what was the
original discussion about anyhow?


As I realized what the actual misconception really is, the discussion
shifted from coils to standing waves. Seems to me, W8JI and W7EL do
not understand the difference implied by these two different equations
(assuming |Ifor|=|Iref|).

Ifor = I1*cos(kx+wt) and Iref = I1*cos(kx-wt)

Istnd = I1*cos(kx+wt) + I1*cos(kx-wt) = I2*cos(kx)*cos(wt)

Gene Fuller has kindly explained the difference but W8JI and W7EL
seemed to have ignored his explanation. Gene says there is no
phase information in standing wave current phase and I agree.




I've said it before and I'll say it again, there is no phase variable
in I1*cos(kx+wt) and there is no phase variable in I1*cos(kx-wt) so
there can't possibly be any phase information in 2*I1*cos(kx)*cos(wt).
If you're going to measure a phase difference between two places on
a transmission line and you want to write an equation describing what
you're doing, you have to have the phase variable somewhere in your
equation so you can solve for it. Also, it would help, Cecil, if you
would be a little more careful when you copy these equations from your
favorite Bible. They keep changing form as time passes.
73,
Tom Donaly, KA6RUH