wrote:
Hanging his hat on Cecil, but now Cecil is getting the picture and
yanking the rug out from under Yuri and his "missing electrical degree
cutrrent taper and phase shift theory".

Is the purpose of this newsgroup to smear individuals or to
get to the technical facts? Nobody is 100% correct 100% of
the time. The coil still occupies tens of degrees and still
suffers a current taper because of that delay.

It only took three or four years, but at least that's better than
Fractenna. :-)

I wouldn't laugh just yet, Tom. There's plenty of misconceptions
on both sides. The delay through the loading coil is still tens of
degrees, not anywhere close to the near-zero degrees that you have
been asserting for years. The delay through a typical 75m bugcatcher
coil appears to be about ~35 degrees with ~11 degrees of stinger.
The "missing" ~44 degrees occurs at the impedance discontinuity
between the coil and the stinger just as it does in my 450/50 ohm
stub example.

The 3 nS delay measured by you and the undetectable delay
measured by W7EL were invalid measurements of delay.
Standing wave current suffers zero delay all along a 1/2WL
dipole whether it be in a wire or in a coil. The delay through a
typical mobile loading coil on 4 MHz appears to be about 25 nS
about half of what one would get in a straight wire equal to the
wire used in the coil.
--
73, Cecil, W5DXP