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Old May 14th 06, 06:57 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna
Cecil Moore
 
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Default FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!

Gene Fuller wrote:
Cecil, You still don't get it.


I get what you said. Here it is again.

Gene Fuller wrote:
The only "phase" remaining is the cos (kz) term, which is really
an amplitude description, not a phase.


So you alluded to phase information in the standing wave
current amplitude.

When I said the phase information was gone, I meant it.


But you also said:

Gene Fuller wrote:
However, there is not one bit of additional physical information
in the traveling waves that is not in the standing wave.


We know that there is phase information in the traveling waves.
So for your statement to be true, there has to be phase information
in the standing wave.

Both of your statements cannot be true. Which one are you
willing to stick with and which one are you going to retract?

If you look at: http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp/travstnd.GIF
you will see that the standing wave amplitude is indeed
a cosine function of the phase. Taking the arc-cosine
of the normalized amplitude yields the phase angle.

I'm sorry, but you have contradicted yourself a couple of times
so I don't know which assertion you want to go with.
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73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp