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Old May 16th 06, 11:36 PM posted to rec.radio.cb
TheHairyBeast
 
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Default Smallest amp for effecitve range increase that works?

Hmm...

I use a 102, But I mounted it to a bolt through the rear metal bumper. I
did add a Heavy ground wire to both the case of the CB and to the Bumper
connecting both to the frame.

I tested my SWR at the time, and its really low 1.2.1 on ch1 and about
1.4.1 on ch 40 I do not have a spring on it. I used to, but I couldn't get
the swr down below 1.5.1 on high side of the channel list (34-40) so I
removed it.
I will have to measure the length of the coax.

As for the base, its 1.2.1 all around unless its the uppers added by the
channel kit (I never go there anyway... Its dead around here) And its run
from the Base to the mast with the Really thick low loss coax.


From what I've read, It looks like I'll have to get the Base unit "tuned
down" to match it to a amp.
As for the mobile, I'm looking at a high drive unit, so that I can keep it
stock, but the price of those little RM amps is so good, I may have it tuned
down as well.


Thanks for the help!


"GHB" wrote in message
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The 102" whip is not tunable except by adding or taking away the spring
from
the ball mount. As I said the 102 never was a perfect match anyway with
about 36 ohms of radiation resistance instead of the desired 50 ohms for a
near perfect match. Since the 102 is not a perfect match the coax length
does matter but if it did match close to perfectly then coax length would
not matter. As for the "counterpoise", that is just another name for the
ground plane. Yes the counterpoise/ground plane is important but any
metal
car or truck body has enough metal to form a good ground plane. The
vehicle
body is half of the antenna and the 102" plus 6" ball and spring is the
other half of your center fed, half-wave dipole antenna system. As far as
SWR depending on the "counterpoise", the antenna must be mounted, as I
said,
with plenty of metal all around it or to put it another way in the middle
of
your vehicle roof to give it a good ground plane/counterpoise. If people
enjoy getting their 102 to "flatline" by using 18 feet of coax and having
good performance that's fine but their antenna is not going to work any
better than if they had the proper half-wave length of coax and the small
amount of reflected RF should not hurt their system.

Scorpio
"Nannar Sin" wrote in message
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On Mon, 15 May 2006 14:47:42 GMT, "GHB"
wrote:

Make sure your mobile has low SWR before installing an amp. You should

be
using an exact half-wave length of coax in your mobile which, depending

on
what coax, will be around 12 to 13 feet but not 18 feet as so many
people
say.


Oh boy is this an old argument.. I dont even want to get started.
Search google this has been talked about forever in here. Some of the
most successful key down guys have used 18 feet and are successful
talking skip and shootouts. Truth is the swr of your antenna will
depend on your counterpoise. Oh well if your antenna is tuned properly
the amount of coax may not matter.

A real old timer!