In article . com,
"RHF" wrote:

Telamon wrote:
In article .com,
"RHF" wrote:


Telamon wrote:
In article .com,
"RHF" wrote:


Telamon wrote:
In article .com,
"RHF" wrote:

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As bad as Digital Radio Mondiale (DRM) may be . . .
At least it is a World Wide Standard and may be in time
technology will evolve that will enable the reduction of
out-of-channel digital artifacts.

Why Is . . . Digital Radio needed below 30 MHz ?

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It's not needed in its current form, that's for sure.

The benefit of moving to the current DRM scheme is not enough to
make
everyone switch to the digital scheme and buy new radios. I don't
see
the point in making the listening experience the same in all
mediums
anyway. I don't want my radio to sound like an Internet stream. I
already have the Internet streaming experience on my computer.

Just the delay from buffering is a pain. Do you realize that band
scanning will be a thing of the past with this as an example of how
the
listening experience will change?

Why do people not realize that any change brings pluses and
negatives
even if it works right or meets the engineering targets? With DRM
working to claimed performance you still have downsides using it
over
analog.

I'll wait for DRM2, 3 or 4 ... until they get it right.

DRM proponents better get used to the idea that a DRM radio will
suck
more power than an analog radio. DRM will require more circuitry
and
even if they get it down to one integrated chip for all the extra
processing needed over analog it will still suck more juice over an
analog design. If you don't want to hear this then just keep on
dreaming.

In the mean time they should stick to a specific part of each of
the
bands so they don't make a mess of the analog reception and I'm not
willing to entertain the notion of some part of the band not being
targeted to my region at some time of day either.

You have a questions. I just gave the answer.

Telamon - I will repeat my self ~ RHF

For 'my' "First" Digital AM/MW Radio.

I think the first Manufacture to come out with an
IBOC AM/FM Radio Plug-an-Play Module for a
Home Computer under $100 will be my first
IBOC Radio purchase.

Having IBOC "Local Only" AM/FM Radio Stations
at the Computer for 'passive' Radio Listening while
I am thinking and working on something else may
be a good use of the both the Time and the Money.

Ideally this type of PC based DRM Radio would be
Software upwardly programmable for DRM-2-3-4 etc . . .

No need to repeat. I sniped and responded to another part of your post,
which was the question you posed.

If you own a radio capable with a large enough bandwidth filter 12KHz
or
larger you can take the output to a computer sound card. Then you can
buy the DRM software for like $100 bucks.

Someone posted here before that you can find the source code at some
web
site for free but then you would have to compile it yourself and I
would
have no way of knowing if it would work the same as the purchased
software from the DRM consortium site or if it is up to date.

Though the source code is free you might have to buy the software
development environment (compiler) software. I'm sure someone would
respond with that information in the news group if you were to ask.

Telamon,

I am NOT talking about a "DRM Ready" PC Based Radio.

I am talking about a FCC (US) Standard "IBOC Ready"
AM/MW and FM 'PC' Based Radio that would simply be
a Plug-and-Play Card to insert into any PC for instant
IBOC "High Definition" (HD) Quality Sound and other
IBOC enhancements such as Text, Data and Images.
{Buy--Down-Load-that-Song-Now} {Subscribe-Now}
{Sign-Up-Now} {Enter-Now}

# 1 - Insert IBOC {HD-Radio} Card

# 2 - Load IBOC {HD-Radio} Card Software

Enjoy IBOC "HD" AM/MW and FM Radio with improved
"High Definition" (HD) Quality Digital Sound from your
Local AM/FM Radio Stations through your PC. For
'passive' Radio Listening while working {using} at your PC.

To me a PC Based IBOC "HD" AM/FM Radio Plug-and-Play
Card is a better "First Product" for Radio Manufactures
then a Home IBOC "HD" AM/FM Radio or a Automotive
IBOC "HD" AM/FM Radio. More "Earily Adapters" will buy
a PC Based "HD" Radio -IMHO- before they would buy an
"HD" Radio for Home or Car.


My Price Point for a PC Based "HD" Radio = $100 ~ RHF
Again I am talking about a US Standard IBOC AM/FM Radio.


OK then you will most likely have to pay 5.5 times that for a PC radio
such as the WiNRADiO. This is a computer card radio with a DRM option.
The least expensive PC card radio they have.
WR-G303i $499.95
DRM software $49.95
http://www.winradio.com/

Maybe there is a better deal on the DRM consortium site.

Telamon,

Once again you are speaking to a 'specialised'
DRM type Shortwave Radio. While I am talking
about a consumer grade AM / FM Radio that
happens to be "HD" {IBOC} and incorporated into
a Plug-and-Play Card for a PC.

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Your original and first three posts to the thread speak to both DRM and
HD AMBCB radio.

The WiNRADiO will work for the AMBCB but I don't see a HD AMBCB decoder
software for it on the Winradio site or anywhere else.

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Telamon
Ventura, California