On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 11:47:29 GMT, "Dee D. Flint"
wrote:


"Roger Halstead" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 01 Oct 2003 21:22:46 GMT, "Dee D. Flint"
wrote:


"G. Doughty" wrote in message
...
Is this test open game? Basically, are all characters, q-codes, and
prosigns
fair game on this test. I have studied relentlessly and know a
majority
of
them and can receive at 10wpm but everytime I look at a different book
or
website I find more stuff.

Thanks for the input

73
G. Doughty
KI4BBL

It is the letters of the alphabet, numerals, period, comma, question
mark,
/, and the following prosigns: BT (written as =), K, KN, and AR. The
test

BT should be the double dash "- - " At least I've never seen it as
anything else.


Double dash is also "=". And is the only way I've seen it written in the
books on code such as "Morse Code: The Essential Language". It is also
written "=" on the check sheet that the VEs use to check copy. The sequence
for BT is the same as the sequence for the equals sign. For example if you
wanted to send 1 + 1 = 2, it would be

di-dah-dah-dah-dah di-dah-di-dah-dit di-dah-dah-dah-dah dah-di-di-di-dah
di-di-dah-dah-dah

Note that the prosign AR is the same as the "+" sign.

I've never seen either written that way, but I learned the code in
1961:-)) I use it, but haven't looked at a book on it since.

We never bothered to write out KN, or AR as they had a significance to
the transmission. If you heard KN you did not break in. As with SK
it means this is the last transmission and we didn't write that out
either. Non of those were on the test, but again that was in 61. The
only prosigns were the comma, period, slash bar, and double dash which
was nothing more than adding space. I didn't get any more than that
on the extra and I took that at the FCC Detroit office. Actually I
don't think there was a double dash on the extra.

Times sure change....



is sent in the form of a simulated QSO (conversation or contact) between
two
stations. It runs for 5 minutes and you copy as much as you can. Then
you
will either need to answer 7 out of 10 questions correctly on the content
of
the QSO or have 1 minute of solid copy (i.e. no errors) to pass. At
5wpm,

Did they drop the requirement from two minutes to one minute?


It has been one minute solid copy since I got into amateur radio in 1992.
Before that, I couldn't say.

It was 2 minutes solid when I took the Novice, General, and Extra.
(61, 62, and 73??.. I think it was 73 or at least there abouts.)

At least we didn't have essay questions:-)) which I believe they
phased out in the 50s.
And...I haven't seen any math that couldn't be worked out in the
applicant's head (if they know the material and "rules of thumb"). db
being the easiest of all which a lot of students find difficult.

Roger Halstead (K8RI EN73 & ARRL Life Member)
www.rogerhalstead.com
N833R World's oldest Debonair? (S# CD-2)

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE
(VE for ARRL & W5YI)