W8JI,

thanks for your comments. i must have missed that cebik article, so i will
read it.

now i reread the antenna section of ON4UN's book, and he does say 5/8 wave
are best for very poor or very good (sal****er) ground. so i am probably
wasting my time with 5/8 waves, although i will try it for the hell of it.

i bet ON4UN used a 5/8 on 40 because he needed the length for 160 and 80 in
the multiband vertical.

hmm.

Gravity