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Old June 13th 06, 07:21 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna
 
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Default Noise level between two ant types

Why didn't you respond to the pictures I drew for you?

Because you have unlimited time to go off into hunderds of a tangents.
I still work 50-60 hours a week.

1.) You say the particles make the noise as each individual particle
hits the antenna.


Yes, and you have agreed with all the steps leading up to that
noise pulse flowing through the link. It is just simple physics.
I notice you are not responding to any of the technical content
of my posting are are continuing to deliberately obfuscate
something I said earlier about aural arcing noise.


I must have missed it. With any AURAL noise there is alos a spark, and
that spark is accompanied by electrical noise or component damage.

My understanding was you said the HF noise in the receiver was caused
by the random particles actually striking the antenna. If so, grounding
makes no difference.

2.) You say grounding the antenna eliminates that noise.


Grounding the antenna eliminated the ***AURAL*** arcing noise
that was keeping me awake at night and scorching my rug when
the transceiver was powered down and disconnected from the
antenna. How many times do I have to explain that to you?


Along with any aural noise is an arc, along with any arc is electrical
noise. None of that matters however. As I understand it you said the HF
noise was from particles hitting the antenna. If so, grounding the
antenna could only increase the voltage delta between the particles and
the antenna.

If you disagree, explain why.

But I have no doubt that if the transceiver had been turned
on, the arcing across the transceiver connector would have
caused RF noise if not failure. And I also have no doubt that
grounding both transmission line conductors would have
eliminated the arcing and thus reduced the RF noise heard
by the receiver.


If the noise was a slow popping noise caused by a series component
breaking down, I agree. If the noise was what is commonly reffered to
as P-static, the sizzling hissing or whining noise with almost a
musical note, I disagree.

Your style of argument is making you look stupid.


Calling people stupid makes you look like you cannot have a mature
discussion. Why not act mature?

73 Tom