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June 24th 06, 04:25 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna

wrote:

I'm going to respond to this posting in two parts.

1.) First he clearly stated he thought the noise was from each
individual charged particle of dust striking the antenna millions of
times a secon making a noise at radio frequencies.

Obviously, I didn't say each particle strikes the antenna
millions of times a second. What I said was that although
others had reported being able to hear each individual
collision, I had never been able to do that. So your statement
is false.

2.) Then he wrongly assumed "shorting the antenna for dc" would also
"short the noise". '

You are mixing apples and oranges. This was in the context of
eliminating the arcing of my coax connector laying on the rug.
Sure enough, shorting the antenna for DC eliminated the arcing
thus eliminating the noise. Your statement is deliberately
misleading.

For the record, when the wind was blowing charged dust particles
across my bare wire antenna under a clear sky, the S-meter noise
increased as the wind speed increased and decreased as the wind
speed decreased.

He apparently missed the fact HE (Cecil) claimed the noise was radio
frequency noise caused by each particle hitting the antenna. If it was
such, shorting the antenna for dc would only make the noise worse.

No, I didn't say that. I specifically said that it was NOT me
who said they could correlate noise to each specific particle.
Is the only way you can win the argument is to falsify what I
have said?

Now it seems he is changing his tune, saying it is arcing in the coax
that is a concern.

No, you are the one who is mixing up the two different subjects.
One was an arcing problem that I needed to solve. The other is
the measures that can be taken to make an antenna less noisy.
Please stop the deliberate mixing of these two subjects. I am
willing to rationally discuss either one separately.

Cecil paints himself into a corner with silly statements. Then he tries
to cover it up by saying he never actually said what he said.

As you are doing, I could cut and paste your postings to make you
seem ignorant and insane. But only an unethical person does that.

But at least now we are in agreement. The noise is caused either by
arcs or corona, not by particle discharges into the antenna as they
connect.

No we are NOT in agreement. In the absence of arcing or corona,
charged particle noise exists and has been experienced by many
people. A web search for "precipitation static" will yield any
number of references, including amateur radio references.
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73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp