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June 24th 06, 05:06 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna

wrote:
Here is where Cecil claimed the noise was from individual particles
hitting the antenna:

Sorry, Tom, you are mistaken. Read it again. It is true that
each individual particle that touches the antenna transfers
some charge but the following was *purely hypothetical*. I have
*NEVER* said I could hear the noise from an individual particle.
"Let's assume" is what one utters just before a hypothetical
exercise in logic. It is obviously hypothetical because exactly
1/2 of the charge is assumed to be transferred.

W5DXP said:
Let's assume one highly charged particle hits dipole element
A and transfers half of its charge.

This is a hypothetical experimental charged particle as one
would get by rubbing amber on wool and touching it to the
antenna.

wrote:
Cecil claimed P-static was broadband noise from each particle hitting
the antenna.

That's a false statement. When I said *assume* one highly charged
particle, it was a purely hypothetical particle. CP-static is
a cumulative effect. I personally have never heard one particle
hitting an antenna although others have reported that they have
heard it. I have never said that one particle hitting the antenna
could be heard in the receiver.

Notice, unlike Cecil, I don't lift things from context to
change the meaning. His full unedited statement is above, and it shows
what he intended to say.

You are attempting to change the meaning at the present, Tom.
That was a hypothetical highly charged particle, Tom, not one
that is likely to exist in the real world. I have previously
said that I could NOT hear the individual particles. My hypothetical
highly charged particle was like a piece of amber that had been
rubbed against wool and then touched to the antenna. I suspect
that one could hear that event in the receiver.

He made several clear posts like that, but at least now he seems to be
coming around and understanding it is arcing and corona noise.

Please stop the mind fornication. Such is highly unethical
but unfortunately standard practice for you for years now.

Sometimes noise is caused by arcing. Sometimes noise is caused
by corona. Sometimes noise is caused by charged particles in
the absence of arcing and corona. I am NOT coming around and
I do NOT seem to be coming around. Please stop misrepresenting
what I have said. It doesn't make you look any less ignorant
and it confuses the readers.

If you want to proceed with a rational argument, I can explain
and defend everything I have said and I am NOT coming around
to your strange concepts.
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73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp