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Old July 1st 06, 03:04 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.homebrew
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Default Self-heating of crystal in inverter oscillator

On Sat, 01 Jul 2006 02:23:19 -0500, Ben Jackson wrote:

On 2006-06-30, wrote:
From a stability factor point of view those "inverter" based
oscillators are amoung the worst.


Good to know. I was trying to reduce part count -- the quad XOR provides
the two oscillators plus one mixer.

and I bet there are parameter shifts in the "chip" as it warms up


The other parameter shift I was missing was droop in the 5V rail as
the 78L05 warmed up (rapidly!) and noise injected by a MAX202 charge
pump also on that 5V rail. I thought that regulator was just for an
(unused) LCD header, but I was wrong.


Those added elements don't help. However I've used flavors
(both TTL and CMOS) of the circuit and stability is only ok at best.
One use was a simple freq counter (commercial purchase) and I
could never get it to stay zeroed on WWV, it was always 100hz or
more off every time I'd check it. I tried everything and finally
pulled that out and added a simple transistor circuit. After than the
error was usually less than a few hz.

I suggest a discrete Bipolar or FET where you can control the
operating point of the device better.


If I can't tame this VCXO I will try that. This must be how Manhattan
prototyping branches off into "Ugly"...


It do at that.

Allison