On 10 Jul 2006 18:48:09 -0700, "an old friend"
wrote:

Al Klein wrote:
On 10 Jul 2006 14:52:20 -0700, "an old friend"
wrote:

I already earned those prevlidges

Earned? By what? Filling out an application? Memorizing enough
answers to just pass the written exam?
exactly the same way you did by passing the tests required at the time

There's a difference between earning and being able to get with no
effort.

The no-code license was a bad idea to begin
with anyway.

perhaps it was (I don't agree it was but I will grant it might be)
but it is 20 years too late for that discussion

It's never too late to correct a mistake.
if it were a mistake the only bigger mistake would be to elimate half
of the curent numbers of licensees

That you have an opinion doesn't make the opinion something that
should be government policy. Who do you think you are, Bush? (Oh,
forget that - his opinion isn't worth as much as yours.)

but in any case the FCC will never take my prevledges thay have made
that clear

Right - the government NEVER changes anything. Are you really that
naive?

accordingly you need to learn to deal with what is instaned
of trying to overturn history

I have nothing to deal with - I'm licensed, and could keep my license
if they made 20 wpm, or digital mode testing, a yearly requirement.
The biggest problem would be freeing up a day to get to wherever the
test was being given.

Acualy I could have gotten one

It was you who said, "I having never been able to passa code test", so
you couldn't have.

you spoke too soon

No, you could have stolen a license - you couldn't have been licensed.
There's a difference. Robbing a bank isn't earning a salary.

That's not passing, that's cheating. If you're old enough to go to
school you're old enough to know the difference.

so it is cheating it still is obtaining a license

That's about what it's come to these days, isn't it? We can't hurt
people's feelings by telling them that they're just not qualified to
do what they want to do. The kid fails all his tests and never turns
in homework? Hey, he's still a high school graduate. Let his boss
suffer.

For many years, my CCNY degree was worthless, because anyone could get
one. Whether they could pass the tests, or not even sign their name,
mad no difference. That little escapade has changed. Maybe some day
a ham ticket will mean something again too. Right now all it means is
that you took the time to apply for it.

but you clearly hate what the ARS is

If he hated it he wouldn't care what it's become.

he hates the ARS today his manner makes that plain

He cares because he
DOESN'T hate it.

no he thinks or igmagine he can hijack it

It's BEEN hijacked - he's trying to get it back.

and you would enact a sytem that would kill they ARS as it is if you
had the power

There were plenty of hams when 13 wpm was the entry level. A 5 wpm
code test and a *real* written test wouldn't kill it, it would just
separate those who are willing to do what it takes to be hams from
those who just want the license without the work.

maybe nut the current entry rates sugest otherwise

Correlation isn't cause. Who needs ham radio with cell phones and the
internet? (I spent a lot of my ham effort maintaining an HT so that I
had communications when I was out and about. A cell phone's so much
easier.)

and He does not
propose 5wpm and writeen test he prososes 13 wpm and a total lack of an
effective entry class and elimiating half the current licees and likely
a lot more than that

Oh, you mean the way it used to be, when there were plenty of hams.

and any "paln" that involves dumping 300,000 hams right of the bat is
pretty going to finish off the ARS

Seems to me we had a pretty good ARS when we only has 100,000 hams. If
dumping 300,000 means losing half, it means having 3 times the number
we used to have. How is tripling "finishing off"?