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Old July 24th 06, 06:45 AM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
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"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
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The difference being that the CD was an optional outlet to content, and
that the same desirable content was still available through previous
technology. If you didn't have a CD player, you didn't get LP's full of
digital hash. That's my point, he With the current arrangement, I
can't get the content of my choice--LOCAL content, not out of market
content--because it's covered up with digital rash from offending stations
testing HD. And the digital solution is not widely available for at least
another month and a half. This after a year's worth of escalating HD
interference.


We have seen nothing like this. We know where our diary mentions come from
and the signal is inot impaired in areas where currently we have listeners.
In fact, listening is up (50% increase in very little is still very little,
though) since HD has been active.

Leaving me, and much of Lake County to move to alternatives. That seems
like it's pretty shortsighted thinking. Unless the goal is to blow off
existing listeners before creating new radio content under HD. Why is it
that the industry is so loathe to address that. So far, you've not
addressed that issue, yourself, here. Which raises the spectre that I, and
my neighbors, are just to be casualties of new technology. Worth little.
Valued less.


What are the specifics? Which stations are interfered with inside the metro.

The fact that no one wants to address this indicates some mindsets that
are exactly the reason corporations, and media corporations especially,
have become so reviled by street level citizens. We don't matter. Our
complaints, legitimate complaints now, are not only not addressed, but
effectively stonewalled by the unwillingness to actually acknowledge that
a problem exists.


When we make any change, we spend a lot of time on the street listening.
Other companies should do the same.

This is what's driving so many of this newsgroup to abuse in these
discussions....the problems...the REAL problems associated with the
implementation of AM-HD aren't being addressed, ie, interference with
local stations. And questions about why we don't matter go largely
unaddressed....in favor of data about contours vs ratings, and monetizable
listeners.


The only think we are interested in today is listening inside our home
metro. This comes, as I have metioned in posts to Mr. Dresser, as a direct
consequence of the FCC policies for decades of encouraging local service by
forcing local content, keeping power levels very low as national pollicy,
and by not recognizing that most AMs have seen the market outgrow the
signal.

So, let me put it this way....WLS is strong in Lake County. Even though
the signal is not 15mv/m. Lake County listenership is high, and WLS is a
strong radio station, here. And yet, here, HD rash has been encroaching on
WLS, to the degree that it's now sometimes virtually impossible to hear,
much less enjoy....and this HD rash is coming from another radio station.
You telling me this is acceptable? Even when WLS, itself is NOT
transmitting HD and so no digital solution is available? (the C-Quam pilot
is still lit and the station is still in stereo, even as of 00:30 UTC
today.


What station? I'm curious about this...

Why is no one addressing this? This is not DX. This is not skywave.
It's LOCAL. And it's local interference.

With all due respect, David...why can't you address THIS?


If you tell me the station, I can ask our local engineer, who is very strong
on RF issues.
from the Navy.

And we've shared some light moments, on USENet in the past, but you're
trying even MY patience. And I'm not your adversary.


This is not an easy discussion, and the first step is accepting that AM will
not exist in 10 years or less if something is not done. There is no other
solution than HD. Either it works, or the band dies. Nobody is coming into
the party, and the ones already there are undesirable to advertisers.