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One Hung Low

wrote:
One Hung Low wrote:

First, I believe you mean the magnetic iron oxide, not silica, which is
sand. You would have to have a STRONG modulated -magnetic- field to
inadvertently pick up "mysterious" voices.

Finally, what makes you think a digital recorder is immune to
rectification? -EACH- IC (Integrated Circuit chip) in the digital
recorder contains hundreds of P-N junctions which ARE rectifiers and
thus susceptible to unwanted rectification of RF fields.

Bottom line: a digital recorder is equally or -more- likely to pick up a
stray RF field than a analog tape recorder.

Then I have one question and one assumption: Is there a way of making a
recording of the environment without the possibility of rectification?

Jeff, this is sort of a bogus question. Several times throughout this
epistle, you seem locked in on RF. If you truly believe that (RF that
is), then yes, you DO need rectification of the RF signal to recover the
audio modulation.

And... a leading theory in EVP is: "EVP is considered to be radio
frequency signals

so, if it's "radio frequency" signals, why use a tape recorder which is
designed to capture AUDIO frequency signals?

that inadvertently find their way into your
recordings by way of cross-modulation, atmospheric refraction

atmospheric refraction is meaningless in this context. Just being used
as a pseudo-science buzz word. If a ghost wanted to talk to you, why
would he (she?) have to bother bouncing it off the ionosphere?

or indirect rectification.

I believe the appropriate term here (and as used by the FCC) is
"incidental", not indirect. Again, this relates to the poor design of
the device in question and why the FCC calls such a case an "incidental"
receiver.

Many paranormal investigators feel that these
voices or signals are somehow connected to ghosts."

"feelings" don't have much place in science.

Let's say for the sake of debate that some voices using the EVP process
are genuinely otherworldly or from another dimension.

"Other dimension"? More buzz words. How is a tape recorder or radio
receiver going to cross "dimensions"? If you are seeing or hearing
something, it is -obviously- already in *our* "dimension".

They have to show
up on our recording apparatus somehow,

Why? Says who? They may show up, but they don't "have to".

and I guess the leading theory
is that this is through RF signals.

Again, if you truly believe it is RF, why in the heck are you trying to
use an AF device (voice recorder) to capture an RF signal???

If you would try EVP for yourself and judge the voices you capture on
an objective, one-by-one basis, instead of dismissing every voice
anyone has ever picked up as having no chance of being paranormal in
nature, you might question more the world around you.

I question the moronic politicians of this world on a daily basis...

It just so
happens that EVP is the best way to get evidence of that world.

Says who? What ever happened to good old tin trumpets, table tipping and
ectoplasm??? Must not be high-tech enough. Even spook chasing seems to
have "gone digital". :-)

PS The Panasonic RR-DR60 recorder was yanked from the market because of
consumer complaints about unexplained voices showing up during business
meetings, etc. It became the Holy Grail of EVP recorders, and recently
had a bid of $1100 for a used recorder on eBay.
It retailed for $40.
Which proves nothing except that

a) the Panasonic design weenie was not cognizant of standard RFI
mitigation techniques.

If that is why the recorder was so good for EVP, then someone could
easily alter another recorder or build their own and sell it as an EVP
recorder and make a considerable amount of money,

Probably so, again there is one born every minute.

considering the public's interest has skyrocketed.

Now, THAT'S scary. More pseudo-science and outright quackery. Just what
we need--another "Dark Ages".

b) P.T. Barnum was right! There is indeed a sucker born every minute.

As a seller, ya gotta love eBay!

I have another explanation: People in today's society are lazy and want
to take the easiest route to accomplish something - if there was a
"holy grail" of EVP recorders, people would buy it instead of spending
time working from the ground up with a standard recorder.

Huh? "Working from the ground up"? I truly do not understand what you
are trying to convey here. Are you saying it (their tape recorder) won't
work on Monday, will work a little bit on Tuesday and will get all kinds
of voices on Wednesday? If so, what would change in the hardware? What
would, hardware-wise, be different in the "holy grail" model that would
cause it to work all the time?

Sure, my
recorder didn't even pick up voices at first. Then gradually some
voices were picked up. Now I can't do a 30-second session without
sometimes dozens of voices showing up, speaking over top each other,
without any white noise. And that seems to correlate with my own
travels to cemeteries and the building of a machine to communicate with
other dimensions.

If you were a spirit and had a message to convey, you'd probably
gravitate toward someone who was spending time trying to open up the
door to communication.

A big stretch in the first place, but even by your own description
above, it would have to do with the -person-, NOT the model of tape
recorder they were using, "holy grail" version or otherwise.

Sadly, critical thinking is becoming a vanishing commodity in the 21st
century... :-(