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Old August 19th 06, 03:35 AM posted to rec.radio.shortwave,alt.paranormal,alt.folklore.ghost-stories
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Default Recording the back of my scanner ... weird voices

Al Smith wrote:

Forgive me for pointing it out, but your understanding of spirits
is pathetically crude. They are not physical beings, or energy
beings.


Considering that spirits have a consciousness and a soul (after all,
we're not talking about wine spirits here) then there would have to be
some sort of energy existing within that soul. How could a spirit
reason, project its voice onto tape, manifest, or insert itself into a
dream if it wasn't energy?

They manifest and express themselves through the human
mind, which projects their expressions outward (so to speak) and


One theory behind EVP was that the voices were actually coming from the
experimenter's mind. Experiments using conscious manipulation proved
futile and there was no telepathic link from the mind to the recording.
If you are talking about something else (through who's human mind -
ours or theirs?)

translates them into terms human consciousness is able to
comprehend. White noise provides a convenient matrix for them to
communicate, since the human mind is ever anxious to pick
recognizable patterns out of chaos. However, they are not able to
physically impress their voices on recording devices, since they
do not have voices, in any mechanical sense.


You're referring to a physical voice? It's hard to define a voice since
a voice isn't a physical object, but sound waves. Then you have voices
travelling through radio waves which you can't detect unless you have
an antenna and the proper gadgetry. According to EVP theory, there are
two ways a spirit can communicate - telepathically and *through
speaking* - we don't hear them because we can't see them, though
sometimes people do hear voices and instantly dismiss them as an
overactive imagination. Again, this goes more into the "how" - which if
anyone easily knew the answer, then there would be no debate.

they cannot be photographed, since they do not have physical bodies.


Images of the deceased (not including orbs or other white anamolies,
but actual facial images) have shown up in photographs for centuries.
Many were hoaxes, but many more cannot be proven a hoax. You can't
dismiss *every* photograph because you believe they can't be
photographed.

In fact, cameras pick up *many* things the human eye cannot, and stuff
like different nanometers of light which we don't see aren't exactly
physical.

Jeff