RadioBanter - View Single Post - You'll probably never have to use CW to save a life.

Dave Heil · September 6th 06, 07:05 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.policy

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The fact is that the "incentive licensing" changes were an attempt to
*return* to a system something like that which existed before February
1953. The complexity of the final result was due in large part to it
being pieced together from the numerous non-ARRL proposals mentioned
earlier.

If that is true (and it is not) then there were FIVE classes
of amateur radio licenses prior to "incentive licensing." :-)

Actually, there were six classes of amateur radio licenses in the USA
from 1951 until the mid-1970s. They were Novice, Technician, General,
Conditional, Advanced and Extra.

"Incentive licensing" went into effect in the late 1960s. There were
six classes of license prior to "incentive licensing".

Incentive licensing was implemented in two stages, the first in November
1968 and the second in November 1969. I was one of those who was
perfectly content with a General Class license until the implementation
of Incentive Licensing. I drove to Dallas and passed the Advanced in
1970. It wasn't until 1977 that I was moved to try for the Extra.

Clever, casually omitting the period between the "mid-1970s"
up to 1991 and the creation of the no-code Technician class.

That wasn't the time period under discussion. Incentive licensing was
in effect then.

You can't win, Jim. Len sees your statements as a ploy.

The incentive licening changes of 1967 to 1969 did not create any new
license classes.

That's a plain and simple fact.

btw, the 1951 restructuring that gave us the license classes with names
rather than letters was not primarily driven by ARRL.

Sweetums, do NOT go into your smokescreening by diversion
routine again. That's SO transparent.

You don't really know what caused the 1951 restructuring, do you, Len?

I didn't think so.

Tsk. M. Superior at it again. :-)

You don't know, do you, Len? Or maybe you do know, but don't want to
admit it, because doing so would show the errors in your anti-ARRL
rants.

If he knows, he is certainly keeping it a secret. My guess is that he
is frantically searching the internet for information.

In 1951 I was graduating from Senior High School, coming up
on Draft eligibility and the Korean War was going hot and
heavy in northeast Asia. I went to work full-time as an
illustrator to get enough money to attend a good art school.
A radio hobby was way low on my priority list then. [I would
voluntarily enlist in the US Army in early 1952]

Bully for you, Len. What does that have to do with your mistakes and
ignorance?

I don't think he was commenting on those. He was addressing his
inability to multi-task.

By the time I was graduating from high school, I'd already had an
Amateur Extra class license for two years and had been a licensed radio
amateur for almost five years. Then I went to EE school. Graduated in
four years, having worked all the way through those years.

So you found the time to attend school, do your homework, take care of
the chores, watch TV and still found enough time to obtain an amateur
radio license and to operate?

The war in those days was in Southeast Asia. Some people my age went,
others did not.

But it's not really about me, Len. Whether I was around in 1951 or not
has no effect on the non-ARRL groups that influenced FCC back then.

The fact is that you simply don't know much about amateur radio
history, and what you do know is full of errors and bias.

Where was Jimmy in 1951? Did he exist? No.

So what? Can a person only talk about things that happened during their
lifetime? You rant on and on about what Maxim and ARRL did, years
before *you* existed.

Where was Len in 1066, or 1215 or 1538 or 1861?

The difference is that you repeatedly get the facts wrong.

....and launches into wordy tirades to cover up his errors.

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Len, you should work on improving your Morse Code skills.

It ain't happenin'.

Dave K8MN