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Default If you had to use CW to save someone's life, would that person die?

From: Slow Code on Thurs, Sep 7 2006 11:50 pm

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From: Opus- on Wed, Sep 6 2006 11:05 pm
On Wed, 06 Sep 2006 23:43:31 GMT, Slow Code spake


There are two ways to communicate when all you have is a transceiver,
phone, & CW.


WRONG, WRONG, WRONG...

It is voice, radiotelegraphy, data, pulse, right off the bat,
plus a few others which you have NO idea they existed for
EMERGENCIES.

Blowcode, you are stuck on HF ham thinking. So were some
other morse zealots and morse bigots in this forum many
years ago. Their scenarios were invalid comic-book stuff
then and now you've just repeated the same. Deja phooey.

On HF you can find some EMERGENCY calling frequencies...but
those aren't on ham bands. I recall only two, one for
maritime, one for civil aviation over-ocean routes. Aviation
has some more but you aren't worth the time to go look them
up in the huge Part 2 regulations of Title 47 C.F.R. Both
are VOICE.

Over or near land the aviation VHF frequency is 121.5 MHz.
Military aviation is 243 MHz. Both are VOICE. Airborne
transponders (those are transmitter-receivers) has a
"squawk" code just for emergencies and, in a pinch, you
can push the IDENT button. Transponder output will auto-
matically show up on ATCRBS radar displays. The little
HTs in military parachute backpacks can do both VOICE
and DME/TACAN (the 'pulse' I mentioned). [you probably
don't know what DME or TACAN are yet they've been around
for a half century.

On waterways (not open ocean) there are VHF frequencies
for EMERGENCIES. VOICE. Go look those up in Part 2.
VHF VOICE is used in the USA in harbors and inland
waterways. Need EMERGENCY frequencies on land? Plenty
of those, band specific, organization specific, freqs
available if you are serious about having to use them.
Those frequencies are kept open 24/7 in most areas and
have emergency power backup. Three major land PLMRS
bands, can you name them? [I didn't think so]

Ever hear of a cellular telephone? By now, I'll bet you
noticed them. One in three Americans have one. Little
1 GHz HTs with lots of added features with tens of
thousands of cell sites to connect to telco. You can
punch up nine-one-one on them same as a wireline phone.
Nine-one-one is operated 24/7, done by professionals.
Cell sites and telephone exchanges all have "floating"
emergency power, can remain operating on AC power outage.

Think you can call for a paramedic with your little "CW"
transceiver, Blowcode? Or a fire truck? Police car?
Sorry, Blowcode, they use VOICE and above 30 MHz.
Some paramedic ambulances have EKG instruments with
radio coupling to a hospital. Some police departments
have data terminals IN their cars (LAPD does as do
many adjacent incorporated cities here).

All you need for phone is a microphone, All you need for CW
is a pencil and paper.


BWAAAAAHAAAA!!!!! How are you on "straight wire CW"
Blowcode? Can you do 'twenty' just rubbing two bare
wires together? [remember, you have to scrape OFF
the insulation to make contact...]

If you had to build a transmitter in an emergency,
a CW transmitter is simpliest to build.


!!!BUILD?!?!?!??? BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!

Is your QST featuring the "Tuna Tin Two" handy and able
to survive a full EMERGENCY environment? Do you have
the parts? Do you have a power-less soldering iron?
Do you know how to use hand tools? [I don't think so]

Once you've cobbled together something that MIGHT work,
HOW DO YOU KNOW? Did you have test equipment that
survived the EMERGENCY, Blowcode? [I'll bet you think
so] How do you know you're on a frequency that you
think is good for emergencies? You do "laying on of
hands" to miraculously make it work? In this (unspecified)
EMERGENCY do you have two functioning hands to use the
tools to 'make' this thing? Will you need AC power
to run it? Will it work on DC? From where will the
electrical power come from? Rub two Handbooks together?
Cobbling together a one-tube transmitter MIGHT be
possible, provided you have plans, the parts, a
suitable tube, and the right values of components
(which you seem to think you 'know' exactly?. It might
take 24 hours or so...at which time the "emergency"
would be over and the 'emergency' victims might be
long dead.

You can spout bull**** bragging only so far. You've
gone too far, Blowcode. You DEMONSTRATE that you can
cobble together a simple 'transmitter' out of a pile
of parts which do NOT know of ahead of time. SHOW US
or someone. Put your money where your big mouth is.

Here's what the right-thinking folks do: Have a radio
or radios ALREADY available for emergencies, along with
a power source, on some 'emergency frequency' that you
KNOW WILL BE HEARD. The "CW-saves-the-day" scenario is
BS that went out before the GMDSS was activated seven
years ago; the USCG is NOT monitoring the 500 KHz "CW"
frequency and neither are many other equivalent national
maritime aid agencies. A few years ago a gal teenager
picked up a call for help on an FRS HT from a stranded
mountain climbing team...voice, not "CW", miles away.
Made the Washington and Oregon newspapers. [FRS isn't
on ham bands, Blowcode, and the gal wasn't a "radio op"]

We are after all technical aren't we?


You (sure as hell) sound like you can barely wire up
a doorbell. With a QST article on it to show you how.

We're not just appliance operators.


Right...in addition you are an unthinking nuisance.

Eliminating CW removes a way we can communicate.


Eliminating a code test does NOT "remove its use."

If morsemanship is so damn good, it DOESN'T NEED
TESTING. Folks will take to it without needing to be
tested if its such a wonderful thing.

A simple way, where all
that's required is an ear, a pencil, and paper, and a skill.


Blowcode, you need a SKULL more than a skill...one
with a working brain inside it. Try to get a new brain. Quickly.

Now go back to reading those comic books from the ARRL.
You know, the "Archie" ones that you saved up long ago.