RadioBanter - View Single Post - Early "Hater" of Amateur Radio. Why didn't he turn in his license???

Dave Heil · September 12th 06, 06:50 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.policy

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rom: Dave Heil on Mon, Sep 11 2006 2:32 pm

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From: Dave Heil on Sun, Sep 10 2006 3:20 pm

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Dave Heil wrote: Brian P. Burke molests those boy scouts

why do you choose to emulate robeson tactic and Wismens?

To Mark: Note the obfuscation technique of Heil here,
he completely avoids the issue of Robesin's baseless
charge that Brian Burke "molests his boy scouts."

I'm quite happy to avoid the "issue".

But you are happy to see it happen.

You have no basis on which to make such a statement. My feelings on the
matter are unknown to you.

A fellow amateur extra
mouthing obscenities against another amateur, a number of
filthy falsehoods about his "pedophilia."

Would you like to phrase that in the form of a sentence?

I've condoned nothing and have no horse in this race.

You say NOTHING about it.

That is absolutely correct.

That is condoning Robeson's
conduct.

That is a complete falsehood. You are left without knowing my feelings.

On the other hand you make denigrations and falsehoods
about others who disagree with you on the morse code
test issue.

I certainly do make denigrations of you, Len. Your charge of falsehoods
is, itself, a falsehood.

That is hypocrisy in action, amateur extra
style, done by morsemen in here.

That's manure, Len. You can't lump all Amateur Extras and you can't
lump all morse code supporters or users together in making your sweeping
generalization.

I don't have to answer *anything* on *any topic* to you, old soldier.
You aren't in charge.

Yes, you HAVE to answer to someone if not me.

Show me.

(1) YOU are NOT the newsgroup moderator.

Nor are you.

(2) YOU are NOT the FCC

Nor are you.

(3) YOU are NOT representing all of amateur radio.

I come a lot closer to representing amateur radio than some
non-participant who appoints himself an advocate for something-or-other
in amateur radio.

(4) YOU are NOT of such a divine status that you can
do whatever you want to do, yet forbid others from
trying to stay on a subject.

Remember that you used that statement in that manner. It applies to a
Leonard H. Anderson. What's the subject--whatever Mark Morgan changes
it to? Is today's subject "what its like to lick...", or is it "kooks
on parade" or "koks on parade"?

(5) YOU are NOT of such a divine status that you are
"better" in every way than the rest of us and
therefore beyond criticsm.

You've been criticizing me for ten years, Len, though you were never
able to make up your mind about my divine status. According to you,
sometimes I am divine and other times I'm not.

I pointed out the peculiarity of Brian's chit-chatting with Mark on a
number of topics while not acknowledging that Mark has engaged in
wholesale flooding of this newsgroup with his mindless drivel.

Yet you tacitly CONDONE Robeson's "mindless drivel" in thousands
of postings that existed before.

That's simply false. I've condoned nothing.

Google statistics on rec.radio.amateur.policy indicate that
Cecil Moore has the highest number of postings in that
newsgroup. In second place is "K4YZ." Cecil has been a
participant in this newsgroup for years and well before
Robeson entered...yet Robeson is almost on-par with Cecil's
total message count now.

That newsgroup? Do you mean THIS newsgroup? That's nice, Len. You've
obviously drawn some conclusion from this.

That is YOUR hypocrisy without question.

My hyprocrisy? Did Cecil ever run a long thread consisting of "what its
like to lick..."? Did Steve?

You have a personal dislike of Mark Morgan and his opinions.

Granted. I killfiled him some time ago.

So, you feel "entitled" to attack Mark's postings? Of
course you must...you insult him personally at nearly every
opportunity. You must feel "superior" to "lesser" humans?

Read above.

... You cried out for information on how diplomacy works.

INCORRECT. I stated that YOU, David Heil, LACKED DIPLOMACY
SKILLS despite being in the State Department of the USA.

That's the opinion of one who knows as little of the Department of State
as he does amateur radio. You didn't even know how the carrot and stick
works.

You attempted to misdirect and obfuscate that by some kind
of childish JOKE "definition" that was INCORRECT.

The definition is a correct summation of the entire world of diplomacy.
Make book on it.

I provided it.

You did NOT "provide" any definition.

I explained it in detail for you. I provided examples of its use.

Webster's New World Compact School and Office Dictionary
has two meanings for DIPLOMACY; "(1) The conducting of
relations between nations; (2) Tact."

If you wish another CORRECT definition, go to another
dictionary. Do not try some simplistic comedic
description about serious matters.

The method I described is quite correct. It is used constantly in our
diplomacy. I explained it in some detail. I provided examples. That
you are unable to grasp it, is not my problem.

At no time have I denied insulting you, Len. You ask for everything
your receive. You're a horse's patoot.

That is your OPINION, not a statement of fact.

I believe it to be both my opinion *and* fact. You wouldn't want it put
to a vote.

It is as devoid of TACT as possible.

It was stated as simply as I could make it. It is my firm belief.

Now WHY is it you
condone the postings of filthy falsehoods by this
other morseman extra we call 'Robesin?'

I've condoned nothing of the kind.

You have tacitly CONDONED those filthy falsehoods by saying
NOTHING about them for years.

Capitalizing still won't win you an argument, Len. I've condoned
nothing of the kind.

Let me be more direct: Do YOU believe that Brian Burke
engages in pedophilia with boy scouts? Answer yes or
no.

Subpoena me, kindly old gent.

Do not try misdirection into challenges of others'
alleged misdeeds. If you attempt misdirection to avoid
any answer, that question will be repeated in here in
subsequent postings.

Repeat it all you like. You don't give orders to anyone.

Here it is, quite directly, Len: I have condoned no such thing,
certainly no one named "Robesin".

You HAVE tacitly CONDONED the posting statements of Steven
James Robeson, K4YZ, alleging that Brian Burke, N0IMD, has
engaged in pedophilia with Boy Scouts.

Again, I've responded before as seen above. I'll respond again. I have
condoned nothing of the sort.

You are all licensed
radio amateurs, yourself and Robeson (whom the rest of us
call 'Robesin') being amateur extras.

Your "the rest of us call" is an outright lie. Use the man's name.
Can't you bring yourself to do it?

Yep, we're all licensed radio amateurs. Write a complaint to the FCC.

You tacitly CONDONED Robesons previous postings of other
falsehoods to other individuals by saying NOTHING,

Once again, that is a falsehood. I have condoned no such thing.
I am responsible for the postings of no one other than myself.

...yet
YOU have engaged in personal insults and denigrations of
those same others.

Brush up on your googling and see when it was that I last responded to
Mark Morgan directly. I see his posts only when someone replies to him.

HYPOCRISY in action, NOT "diplomacy."

Your claim is based upon erroneous or false information, kindly old gent.

Dave