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Dave Heil · September 13th 06, 01:50 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.policy

wrote:
From: Dave Heil on Sun, Sep 10 2006 12:35 pm

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Dave Heil wrote:

[snip of Len's "blah, blah, blah"]

Tsk, most of Herr Robust's "blah, blah, blah" is ignored. :-)

Believers in the Church of St. Hiram go "bahh, bahh, bahh" like
sheep. shrug

Censorship?

Summary of Len's comments:

Tsk, Herr Robust thinks he can call a Summary court martial.

More of your denigrations, Len?

Len is still suspicious of the ARRL.

Why would anyone be "suspicious" of a private organization
that pretends to be a religious organization? I.e., the
Church of St. Hiram...or imagine they are a part of
the US government with their "free elections?" :-)

I know of no "Church" of St. Hiram". I know of no amateur radio
organization which pretends to be a religious organization. I know of
no amateur radio organization which pretends to be part of the U.S.
Government. I do know of a rather large amateur radio organization
which does hold tightly monitored elections on a regular basis. No one
with a potential conflict of interests is permitted to run.

Len believes Carl should have been allowed to run.

Tsk. That is NOT what I wrote.

Allow me to make a correction:

Len does not believe Carl should have been allowed to run.

It would be a snowball's
chance in hell for a no-code-test advocate to be even
considered for getting on any ARRL ballot. :-)

Heck, he had a better chance than you, of winning an ARRL election.

Can't you get ANYTHING right?

I've posted my correction.

Len believes that Carl would have brought change, even
if he would have been one of many ARRL Directors if elected.

You still did NOT get anything right.

NOBODY new can change the "minds" of the ARRL good 'ol
bouys club. They are afloat in a sea of retrograde.

Allow me to post another correction:

Len does not believe that Carl would have brought change to the ARRL.

Membership in the ARRL is still a minority of all licensed
US radio amateurs. It never reached a quarter of all of
them...

I believe you may be wrong on that, Len. I believe that about 1/3 of
all U.S. radio amateurs belonged to the League some decades past. That
was before all of the dumbing down began.

...yet the ARRL does its PR BS about "representing" ALL
of [US] amateur radio.

It has done its best to do just that. Without the League, we'd have
just a scattered few folks like you, wrapped in bunting and standing on
soap boxes, each preaching to three or four people. There is strength
in numbers.

Len is still not a radio amateur and not an ARRL member.

No and yes.

You are a radio amateur and an ARRL member?

I have a hobby of electronics homebrewing
which sometimes includes radio. Since that activity is
paid for solely by myself, it is considered "amateur."

....but not considered a "radio amateur". Feel free to continue your
tinkering (sometimes with radio).

I am a professional in electronics engineering, have long
held a Commercial radio operator license, and am a Life
Member of the Institute for Electrical and Electronic
Engineers (IEEE), a professional organization.

That's irrelevant to both amateur radio and the ARRL.

Baaaad summary, Davie boy, bad, bad...

It was accurate.

go sit in corner.

Quit giving orders, old soldier.

Len is not a
participant in amateur radio and his views of what is best for amateur
radio and what is best for the ARRL are still irrelevant.

Oh, wow, did Herr Robust get THAT bs WRONG!

Poor baby, let me repeat: I am an advocate of eliminating
the morse code TEST for US radio amateurs. That is it.

Who voted you in as advocate? Who requested your assistance?

I could not possibly hope to tell Herr Heil "what to do!"
:-)

Well, Foghorn, it certainly looked as if you hoped to do it a few lines
above!

Herr Heil KNOWS ALL and doesn't hesitate to slam
anyone who does not love, honor, and obey the ARRL.

Your scatter gun approach is all wrong, Len. I'll be happy to slam you,
the insulting old piranha. You aren't a part of either the ARRL or
amateur radio.

Perhaps Carl would have championed the reciprocol frequency rule.

"Reciprocal"

Oooo! Oooo!

What are you--Gunther Toody?

Herr Heil has worked up a rage...

I'm not in a rage, Foghorn. Sorry to disappoint.

"signed" his
post, then HAD to try to rub all eyes in the dirt of his own
spreading!

It must be something in the West Coast water supply which causes you to
act goofy.

I'm sure that a highly competent guy like Carl Stevenson would have no
problem running that by what he calls, "

Davie is a composer. Up there is his opus, "The Unfinished
Insult." :-) [it is in Be Flat]

Herr Heil had to pause, go and search Google for quotes,
making sure to take only those that could be isolated out of
their message context...

Out of context? You believe there is a context which would make Carl's
statments look less insulting?

Carl would be aided in his efforts by the warmth and comraderie he has
genererated with statements like:

"The ARRL is like a corrupt dictatorship ... out of control and yet
with all the power of control (and money from its publishing empire)
... the only viable way to save ham radio is to overthrow the ARRL
and kick them out as the "representative" of ham radio to the FCC ...
given a chance, they'll do the wrong thing practically every time, it
seems."

ARRL *is* a virtual monopoly on United States amateur radio
publications.

Bravo Sierra.

Having that means they can influence all of
their readership to ARRL viewpoints. They can brainwash
opinions very easily...and have appeared to do just that.

Bravo Sierra.

As a private organization they are NOT bound to rules and
regulations that apply to REAL government...yet they
pretend to be a "representative" of ALL US radio amateurs.

Bravo Sierra.

Tsk, ARRL still hasn't achieved a membership as large as
a quarter of all US amateur radio licensees. Yet.

Bravo Sierra.

Dave K8MN