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Old September 22nd 06, 04:16 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna
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Richard Clark wrote:
On 21 Sep 2006 19:09:38 -0700, "art" wrote:

Notwithstanding that the
upper half of the major lobe serves no usefull purpose to what the
antenna is required for there is a mass of radiation in many directions
and levels that have no connection to the required purpose of the
antenna, thus we have a lot of wasted radiation that if we harness it
so that it is used for the antennas primary use the efficiency of the
antenna would increase immensly.


Hi Art,

The classic solution is to stack yagis vertically. This draws down
the higher radiation lobes and puts their gain in the forward
direction.

Well you are getting closer to the question at hand. You have now
doubled the
power input but only slightly gained directionality(2db) efficiency I
would also suspect that you have flattened the lower lobe only into a
pancake shape. But again I go back to the desirable radiation which can
be said in this case to be the lower half of the major lobes half power
envelope which for a directional radiated array is very small compared
to the total radiated field.True propagation can play games but the
ARRL
give the average arrival angles over a 11 year period so it is not a
hopeless task to get a ball park figure regarding usefull radiation
knowing where the target is
I suppose I could make a model and slice out the half power lobe
portion and compare the two volumes for myself, I just thought that it
had already been looked at
Oh well back to the drawing board
Art



However, unless you can positively insure that higher radiation does
not actually find its way to the target (you need a propagation
modeler to prove that, by the way), then you could be muffling
yourself at one elevation to yell at another elevation that is only
heard in points remote from the target.

In other words, if you suppress the lobe at 20 degrees to optimize the
lobe at 10 degrees, you may miss your target altogether. Given that
skip works on so many variables, an "efficient" antenna may be wholly
useless.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC