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Old October 10th 06, 06:16 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.policy
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Default Part B, Is the code requirement really keeping good people out?

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From: Dave Heil on Sun, Oct 8 2006 4:28 am


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From: on Sat, Oct 7 2006 6:39 am
Dave Heil wrote:
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Dave Heil wrote:
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From: on Tues, Oct 3 2006 3:25 pm
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Tsk, tsk, you've TOLD ME what I should have done in the
military...

What did Jim TELL YOU that you should have been doing, Len?


It's in the archives where Jimmie likes to live. :-)


That you chose not to provide that information is noted. :-)



You can see and read what I did for three years there via:
http://sujan.hallikainen.org/Broadca...s/My3Years.pdf
6 MB in size, takes about 19 minutes download on a dial-up
connection. Twenty pages with many photo illustrations.
High-power HF transmitters. 1953 to 1956.


Reruns of "Look what I did".


Not "I," old soldier-statesman, what *we* in the
battalion did. 8235th Army Unit.


The rest of 'em aren't posting here, Len. There's just you.

It's for historical interest purposes.


Any historical interest in it here seems to have dried up with the
repeated tellings.

The only other one
(a much larger one) is at www.usarmygermany.com that was
put together by Walter Elkins about the Signal effort in
Europe.


I'm a little more interested in the ON4UN 160m signal efforts in Europe.

If you sneer too much at the My3Years.pdf, then feel free
to substitute AlphabetSoup.pdf, a copy of my battalion's
own production of its mission tasks circa 1962. That
courtesy of Mr. James Brendage, a retired civilian
engineer who worked at ADA when I was serving there.


I have no real interest in looking at them, Len. Thanks just the same.

If you don't like either of those, then substitute either
one of the two remaining, one on microwave radio relay,
the other on the SCR-300, both from a technical standpoint.
The SCR-300 was the first walkie-talkie, a backpack VHF
transceiver, introduced during WW2, designed and built by
Galvin Mfg (later to be renamed Motorola).


No thanks, Len.

It's all about RADIO and COMMUNICATIONS.


That's nice. This is all about amateur radio communications.


Your ADA sojourn began about fifty-three years back, didn't it, Len?
Why do you live in the past so much?


1. I live for the now and the future, not the past.


Your frequent references to what you did at ADA say otherwise.

2. There is no copyright restriction on government works,
therefore no need to get written permission.


So you regale this newsgroup with the same tired tale because there's no
copyright?

3. There is no security classification on the material
I've presented...neither from the DoD nor private
company non-disclosure agreements.


That's too bad.



Greenlee is still a corporation in Rockford, IL, but they
seem to have stopped making "chassis punches" for radio
hobbyists.

There's another of your factual errors.


My bad. :-) Does Greenlee take out ads in QST, QEX?


Get your own copies. Your error noted.

How about Popular Communications? Any ads in there?


You can pick it up at newsstands or subscribe.

Greenlee still sells chassis
punches--round ones, square ones, those shaped for D-connectors, power
sockets. There's even a hydraulic punch set. The U.S. Government buys
loads of them. The company's "hole making" product information can be
downloaded--all 7.9 mb of it.

http://www.greenlee.com/product/index.html


Are you on commission from Greenlee? :-)


I used to be. :-) That's one of the lines I've sold in the past.

No sweat, old soldier-statesman, I've been IN Greenlee on
a visit, have seen the little corner of one building where
two guys were making punches and files.


Superfluous minutiae.

Send your download to Lowes or Home Depot corporate head-
quarters, see if they are interested.


I no longer sell industrial electronic parts.

I still have old Greenlee chassis punches from before the
60s, still wrapped in oily paper, get checked now and then
for rust. They were all used decades ago...only two have
been reground on the edges (did that myself, no problem).


I have two different sets, with some overlap in sizes. The difference
between yours and mine are that mine are used pretty frequently.

Not much use for those punches now in the solid-state era.


That is simply another of your factual errors. Anyone who uses DB
connectors, power connectors, holes for rocker switches or meters, can
use a set of the punches.

Especially when there are so many KITS available for those
who claim to design their own. :-)


And here we have another of your factual errors. You really do make
quite many.



Jimmie ever do any "programming in machine language?" At any
time? I have. Want me to list them? :-)


That's not necessary, Len. Why not tell us any of the things you've
done in amateur radio?


You mean the software mods I made for two other hams
don't apply? [Microchip Corp. PIC microcontrollers]


No, I don't mean those.

How about a series of bandpass filters for the HF bands
where I did the toroid windings, capacitor selection,
assembly, shielding, and alignment? Using my own
computer program "LCie4"?


No, I don't mean that.

Oh, be still my heart, the great soldier-statesman has
put me down! :-)


It isn't the first time.


Only a fraction of the American people are watching HDTV. Most aren't
even aware of what will hit them in a couple of years. People are still
running out to K-Mart and Wally World and buying new *analog* TV sets.


Thank you for the attempt at being an electronics
industry "insider." It is nice to know that someone
cares.


I think you'll find that I'm pretty well up to date on consumer,
industrial and computer electronics items as well as the amateur radio
market. Is there anything specific, other than the Greenlee product
line, that you wish to know more about?

There'll be a big learning curve for the non-city dwelling owners of new
HDTV receivers. They'll find that they have to use antennas with fairly
high gain, preamps and rotators. They'll be using those rotators quite
often. I ended up buying a Channel Master rotator with remote control
and memory.


That's nice. Are you going for some kind of amateur HDTV
award or contest?


I'm pretty sure that there are no consumer-PROFESSIONALS in HDTV.
No, Len, I'm pointing to the fact that quite a number of others are
going to find themselves in the same boat. I have two "locals" but one
of them is forty-five miles away near Steubenville, Ohio. The other HD
stations are in Athens, Ohio; Pittsburgh and Johnstown, Pennsylvania--a
goodly distance away. The only way to see them is to turn the antenna.




He knows very little about me and has resorted to wild speculation and
untruths for a long time.
Tsk. Typical bluffmanship on Jimmie's part.

It was an accurate statement, Leonard. You don't know much about Jim.
You have resorted to wild speculation and untruths.


How can something be "untrue" if there is NO basis to
judge?


A number of your statements begin, "You have never...", when you do not,
in fact, know if Jim has ever done something.


Id est, as in his never saying...but you MUST
call a speculation a LIE?


"You have never..." does not indicate speculation.

Sounds like the old Waffen SS trick again.


If the shoe fits...


ARRL carefully OMITS certain items of history and IMPLIES
amateurs are 'responsible' for all advances. :-)

You've made another untruthful statement.


My apology for offending your religious beliefs. However,
the TRUTH is not heresy.


....and your inaccuracies do not represent the truth.



Jimmie wanna see my home workshop? Have it digitized,
was sent to three others. Wanna see the HP 608D and
the 606 signal generators, the 60 MHz dual-channel
scopes (note plural), the 1 KW Variac below the bench?

You're kind of light in the Variac department, Len. Don't you have
anything which will handle real power?


Yes...it's labeled "4 Stacks" on aeronautical sectional
charts.

BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[pilot joke, old soldier-statesman]


Then you'll want to remember it for the "I wanted to be a pilot, but
never did that either" newsgroup.

You're a pathetic and childish geezer, Len.


Awwww...you are TOO sweet... :-)


Only you could take it as a compliment. :-)


You really need a way to fill your idle hours.


"Idle?"

BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Yes, Len, your idle hours. You shouldn't be bothering military
recruiters and haunting newsgroups which deal with things in which you
aren't a participant.


Paul didn't say anything about a background check, Len. He addressed
the IEEE Code of Ethics.


YOU addressed the IEEE Code of Ethics, failing to write
all of it.


Yes, I addressed it. Paul addressed it.

I included those portions which you regularly violate here.


Paul picked up on that and wanted to get in
some kind of "fight" about it.


You see it as a fight. I see it as his concern.

YOU have the mailing address of the IEEE. Feel free to
write them and complain about my behavior in the news-
group and how that "violates" the Professional Code of
Ethics about engineering WORK.


If you feel that it is something you only need to observe while working,
fine.

Be sure and document
everything from BOTH sides, such as your own name-
calling ("You're a pathetic and childish geezer").


Both sides? I'm not an IEEE member, Len. My statement toward you was a
direct comment on your behavior in this newsgroup. I believe it to be
accurate.

Tell the IEEE that your "soldier-statesman" image has
been "tarnished" by "insults" in here. Go ahead, make
your day.


I've never called myself a "soldier-statesman", Len. That's just
something else you've done.


Are you discussing your tiny, dusty Johnson?


No, but you seem to have overmuch interest in it.


"Overmuch" Is that some sort of PROFESSIONAL writer term?
I don't find your little Johnson interesting at all, Leonard.
I have a big Johnson.

Did you munch a lot of nuts while in Guinea-Bisseau?


Why sure, Len. We roasted them in oil and salted them. Don't you roast
your nuts?

[cashews are their biggest export...]


Superfluous minutia.


As always to you, ByteBrothers famous phrase invoked...


Maybe you'll get around to spelling it out someday.

Dave K8MN